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when to stop spending?
#1521609
14/01/2015 01:36
14/01/2015 01:36
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pjdm
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pjdm
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I only paid 700 for my 16vna. But replaced all belts, tensioners, plugs, dizzy, rotor arm, leads, oil, air filter, tyres, discs pads all round, sump, and rocker gaskets, window regulator being done nxt week. It must stand me at 1200 now. Its low miles and very tidy is it worth 1200??? my head says stop spending, my heart says spend spend spend. Do you think 16vna will be first to achieve classic status? The lampredi is legendary and with it being none turbo? Could I be sat on a future classic?
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#1521615
14/01/2015 07:47
14/01/2015 07:47
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Big_Muzzie
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Big_Muzzie
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Barnacle has his insured at a replacement value of 10k, so quite possibly, yes.
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#1521698
14/01/2015 20:56
14/01/2015 20:56
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Big_Muzzie
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Big_Muzzie
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Never, if you stop then it will deteriorate. If it deteriorates itll cost more in the long run!
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#1521715
14/01/2015 22:25
14/01/2015 22:25
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VDVT
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VDVT
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bought my first coupe a 1.8 vna for 2.2k euro's, spend 500 on it, sold it again for 2.5 to get a 2.0 16VT that i bought for 3.5k euro's, spend about 750 on it, then found out i bought a crap car, so much was wrong with it that i had to get rid of it. Spend a other 5000 euro's buying a 20 vt that has already cost me 1.4k in the first week. so what i am trying to say, no you haven't spend much and if you like the car and can afford to keep it, keep fixing it
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#1521729
14/01/2015 23:57
14/01/2015 23:57
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pjdm
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pjdm
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I suppose all in £1200 isnt a bad figure for a car that looks and runs nice.
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#1521746
15/01/2015 09:19
15/01/2015 09:19
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Brickfoot
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Brickfoot
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Im in the process of restoring mine, its a 03/1994 16vt been in family since 1995. Early dealers car with low badges on b-pillar, no pass airbag, different stearing wheel and other detailes thatsdiferent. Im replacing everything that moves under the car, powdercoating everything thats not mint, its geting a paintjob an engine upgrade, but all reversable and keeping all original parts in garage, totaly im expecting to use more than 10.000k£ over a years time. Worth every penny. I think the 16vt will be the most desireable classic, only in production 2-3 years, most of the driven to pieces allready, proper motor directly from the Integrale at the time this was going out of production, only fiat ever with that engine.. But than again, its mine and i love it
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#1521748
15/01/2015 09:38
15/01/2015 09:38
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Brickfoot
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Brickfoot
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Oh! And the car is absolutly rust free and has a milage of 75000.
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#1521756
15/01/2015 12:02
15/01/2015 12:02
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Brickfoot
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Brickfoot
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Yep Thats one of the main reason i think theese will be the most collectable..
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#1521764
15/01/2015 13:16
15/01/2015 13:16
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Nigel
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in early 2010, as I was contemplating replacing my leggy Sprinty, I worked out the total cost of ownership over the 6.5 years and 153,000 miles that I'd done up to that point (I did another 15k before I eventually replaced it):- Cost of the car - £5,000 Total cost of fuel - £32,000 Total cost of insurance - £4,000 Total cost of tyres - £2,500 Total cost of servicing - £4,500 Total cost of road tax - £1300 Total cost of all mechanical repairs and mods - £27,000 that worked out at around £75,000 over six years - now THAT is when I realised I needed to stop spending...
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#1521807
15/01/2015 21:21
15/01/2015 21:21
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Burbum123
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in early 2010, as I was contemplating replacing my leggy Sprinty, I worked out the total cost of ownership over the 6.5 years and 153,000 miles that I'd done up to that point (I did another 15k before I eventually replaced it):- Cost of the car - £5,000 Total cost of fuel - £32,000 Total cost of insurance - £4,000 Total cost of tyres - £2,500 Total cost of servicing - £4,500
Total cost of road tax - £1300 Total cost of all mechanical repairs and mods - £27,000 that worked out at around £75,000 over six years - now THAT is when I realised I needed to stop spending... Wow that's ridiculous
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#1521817
15/01/2015 23:33
15/01/2015 23:33
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swrigh20
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its a classic. full stop. i brought a alfa gtv for £750 14 years ago. now they change hands for 25k!! dont let it be a case of "i wish i had kept that" if you dont want to run it, find a garage and lay it up. its time will come. and i dont think it will be long.
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#1521827
16/01/2015 08:12
16/01/2015 08:12
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VDVT
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VDVT
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No offence Nigel but I don't think you can count Fuel along with the rest to figure out what a car has cost you. I mean, every car, any car will consume fuel no matter how you look at it. granted one will use up 10liter per 100km and the other might use 20 for the same distance but that's what you get when you choose to drive a 'sport' car or 'gt' car. Reason I respond is cause on the way back yesterday from work to our house my wife commented the same thing. She was asking me why I was accelerating so fast when it was obviously not needed. I responded that I did it cause it was fun to do and feels great in the car, and that the day that I have to start driving economical with a car like this is the day that I hang up the key's for good. end of rant
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#1521837
16/01/2015 10:12
16/01/2015 10:12
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Pondman
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Pondman
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She was asking me why I was accelerating so fast when it was obviously not needed? I responded that, I did it cause it was fun to do and feels great in the car, and that the day that I have to start driving economical with a car like this is the day that I hang up the key's for good. Well said My daily drive is a Ford Transit, as good a steer as it is, it doesn't make me smile like the Coupe does. I have a coupe for the pleasure of ownership, when it works! Which is most of the time
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#1521878
16/01/2015 13:58
16/01/2015 13:58
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Nigel
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No offence Nigel but I don't think you can count Fuel along with the rest to figure out what a car has cost you. I agree - on the original post, I also calculated that the total cost of a three year old Ford Focus would have been around £50,000 for the same mileage, so I was happy enough with a 50% premium for running the Coupe
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#1521967
16/01/2015 23:52
16/01/2015 23:52
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Brickfoot
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Brickfoot
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its a classic. full stop. i brought a alfa gtv for £750 14 years ago. now they change hands for 25k!! dont let it be a case of "i wish i had kept that" if you dont want to run it, find a garage and lay it up. its time will come. and i dont think it will be long. 10 points to you sir
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#1522358
20/01/2015 13:40
20/01/2015 13:40
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mr_nobut
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Making a profit
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Great thread, mine's due for belts, clutch and disc/pads this year which will probably cost more than it's worth but what's the alternative!! Have a friend with nearly new bland bmw and his service/repair costs are seriously eye watering (and ontop of the hp!!). You pays your money and makes your choice, as they say!!
inky goodness!!
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#1522360
20/01/2015 13:43
20/01/2015 13:43
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pjdm
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pjdm
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I agree, I've just spent another £380 on mine today and it still needs a small hole welding up after winter.
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#1522425
20/01/2015 21:52
20/01/2015 21:52
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Gunzi
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I've decided not to add up what I've spent on my Coupe since I bought it in 2007, although I'm confident it's over £10k excluding fuel insurance and tax. If you're interested I posted my complete list in 2011 and it's safe to say it's got larger by a similar amount for each year that's passed since then. It still needs plenty of work but it's definitely worth it.
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#1522460
21/01/2015 08:13
21/01/2015 08:13
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sandytim
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Enjoying the ride
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#1522463
21/01/2015 08:31
21/01/2015 08:31
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mr_cheese
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mr_cheese
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Well not including buying my 2 coupes iv spent 5k in the last 2 months!!!!! Ouch!! But hey at least I smile when driving my coupes!! Lol
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#1522492
21/01/2015 14:23
21/01/2015 14:23
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neil_r
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Surely we should not be counting wear items. They would be the same for all cars with provisos like some cars may have longer-lived parts and others may have cheaper parts. Fuel costs are also likely to be in the same ballpark for very broadly similar cars.
Improvements should not be counted either as they are not necessary. That is just part of the hobby.
That really leaves the extra costs for running a coupe, like rather frequent belt changes for the 20V, suspension refreshes, etc.
When we buy an old, well used car, it is cheap because it has been used and is worn. One expects to have to make it fit again if one expects to use it. So if we want to run a Fiat Coupe we have to get it to a condition that it will run well. That means buy price plus the outstanding refreshes and repairs. From that point onwards, it should be similarly expensive as other cars of similar complexity. Just because people get rid of them for 1000 Pounds does not mean that one should not invest some money into them to make them run right. The were probably sold because they needed attention and the owner was not willing to give it that attention for whatever reason.
New cars usually cost very little in repairs but depreciate loads. Old cars are cheap but usually cost something to make them reliably usable. The end result is the same - a reliable car that suits the owners requirements.
1997 20V 2000 V6 manual S-Type and 2011 5.0 XKR 2016 Tucson 1.6T AWD 2018 Mazda2 GT
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#1522618
22/01/2015 15:03
22/01/2015 15:03
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go_fast_Chris
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go_fast_Chris
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have been keeping a running total and rolling log of all expenses on my coupe... so far spent 11K over 1 year with her...
on the long term list is a few more expensive jobs to do but waiting untill the funds are ready for it.
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