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And here WE go... #1472309
04/02/2014 01:48
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As per my old thread - BIG decision made... I promised to myself that I`ll rebuild my Coupé from a "scratch"!

Over 2013 I was buying all the bits and pieces needed for the job. And tomorrow the Coop will be going to the doctor for a second chance! smile

My plan/idea is to do this in 3 stages in the next month or so:

Stage ONE (tomorrows job):

ENGINE...

*Newly re-built (~5k mls) engine. (Marco20Valve`s engine)
*Newly re-built (800 mls) standard turbo.
*Newish Oil cooler + pipes. (3 Years old)
*New JBT`s 13 piece red silicone hose kit.
*New VIBRA-TECHNICS Road engine mounts.
*New Standard Valeo Clutch KIT.
*New Slave cylinder

Stage TWO:

Suspension...

*Newish Bilstein B-4 shocks. (~3000 kms)
*New H&R 30mm Lowering springs.
*New Top Mounts + Bearing kits.
*Sparco strut brace
*New Wishbones
*New Drop links.
*New Front wheel bearings kits. (Rear are done)
*New Brake lines.
*New Handbrake cables.

Stage THREE:

Body...

*Full Re-spray. (same color) - Long live the INKY! laugh
*New AutoDS LE/Plus Body KIT.
*New AutoDS Plus Honeycombe Grille.

Wheels...

*Refurbished 18" Azec C`s
*225/40R18 Kumho KU39 Ecsta Le Sport (very good reviews on these)

...And along the process there will be few more goodies going on the Coop as well...

I`m going to keep you posted on this and try to take as much photos as possible... smile

May the LORD be with me over the next month or so... laugh

Over and out!

Ivan


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Re: And here WE go... [Re: Markiz] #1472312
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Awesome I'll be watching this with interest. Loads of pics please as it's going together.

Re: And here WE go... [Re: ] #1472314
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Good luck, should be lovely when done thumb


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Re: And here WE go... [Re: Markiz] #1472778
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Okay.. STAGE ONE is officially in progress...

Yesterday evening the engine and all the bits were picked up!

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Along with:

*New Timing belt kit
*New Water pump

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I had them changed last year... But I thought that if I`m changing all this stuff it would be good idea to do them as well(again)... Then at least I`ll know that everything is done! rolleyes
I called down this morning and the Coop was on the lift and the stripping had begun! yipee

Over and out!

Ivan


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Re: And here WE go... [Re: Markiz] #1472780
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Good luck with it all Markiz cool

Re: And here WE go... [Re: Theresa] #1472782
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Originally Posted By: Mark_S
Good luck, should be lovely when done thumb

Originally Posted By: Theresa
Good luck with it all Markiz cool

Will definitely need it! Thanks guys. thumb


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Re: And here WE go... [Re: Markiz] #1472810
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You may not wish to discuss publicly but could you keep a running budget as you go, a la Mike and Edd?
When i've got a minute I'll dig out my invoices so far so I can show you mine if you show me yours.....Ooeer, missus!

Re: And here WE go... [Re: Markiz] #1472943
07/02/2014 03:28
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Little update from today folks! smile

Called up this morning to the garage to drop of this little but important thing:

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And basically things were going well. The old engine was out:

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And the new engine had the new clutch and the re-built turbo on. smile

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I also collected the coolant/expansion tank as it needed cleaning badly....

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Obviously the previous owner had a leaky radiator or leaky something and decided to pour in some "quick fix" sealants... And had the old radiator destroyed... irked

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(These pictures are from last year when I was changing the radiator. There is a fairly new in it now.) smile

But however with a bit of effort, shaking, hot water and these two heroes:

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This is what the result was:

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Delighted! smile

In the evening when I called back up to the garage to return the coolant tank and the new cap for it, the new engine was in:

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So by tomorrow evening hopefully everything should be ready and we`ll bring Frankenstein to LIFE! And hopefully with no complications...

P.S. I have a spare Rocker Cover that I`ll paint red and put on to the new engine. This will be kinda "The cherry on top..." laugh

Over and out!

Ivan


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Re: And here WE go... [Re: Markiz] #1472997
07/02/2014 11:57
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That coolant tank has come up very nice!
Did you do anything special to it as mine isn't anywhere near that clean?

Re: And here WE go... [Re: Dazvr6] #1473008
07/02/2014 12:50
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Originally Posted By: Dazvr6
That coolant tank has come up very nice!
Did you do anything special to it as mine isn't anywhere near that clean?

Nope, not really. The only special thing I did was a lot and I mean a lot of shaking with the corn in it (with less water - around 200mls) . For about an hour (maybe more). And I shooke it in every possible direction and angle so it would get all the gunk - bottom, top, side, front, back.... smile

Pitty there was not enough time to treat it with a bit of bleach as well... But we`ll leave this for some other time. smile


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I've done mine with the dishwasher tabs in and boiling water overnight.
Then added rice and shook for about 15 mins. Flushed it all out and left it in a 50/50 bucket of bleach for a week!
Its nice and clean inside but is still yellow.

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Re: And here WE go... [Re: Markiz] #1473074
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Originally Posted By: Markiz
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I have a spare Rocker Cover that I`ll paint red and put on to the new engine. This will be kinda "The cherry on top..." laugh

Ivan


that's one of my rocker covers I did for someone on the forum , good luck with the build Ivan thumb

Re: And here WE go... [Re: Markiz] #1473088
07/02/2014 20:19
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I want my engine back lol

Good luck mate!!

Brand new fiat crank, head work, new head bolts, new gaskets, recon oil pump, CP rings, lighten and balanced pistons, rods and crank..

That engine was perfectly balanced and ran SO fu**ing GOOD...

I miss it.

Infact, I think I want it back...

I miss my coupe seeing that engine again... frown

Re: And here WE go... [Re: ] #1474019
12/02/2014 22:58
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Originally Posted By: nismo
Originally Posted By: Markiz
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I have a spare Rocker Cover that I`ll paint red and put on to the new engine. This will be kinda "The cherry on top..." laugh

Ivan


that's one of my rocker covers I did for someone on the forum , good luck with the build Ivan thumb

Thank you Iain! smile Probably you did it for the only man that`s in to purple rocker covers, purple fuel rails and purple plenum chambers... The one and only mr. Marco20ValveT! laugh


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Re: And here WE go... [Re: ] #1474021
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Originally Posted By: Marco20ValveT
I want my engine back lol

Good luck mate!!

Brand new fiat crank, head work, new head bolts, new gaskets, recon oil pump, CP rings, lighten and balanced pistons, rods and crank..

That engine was perfectly balanced and ran SO fu**ing GOOD...

I miss it.

Infact, I think I want it back...

I miss my coupe seeing that engine again... frown

Engine build so brilliantly I just can`t part with! But if you miss it Marco you know what to do.. Sell the M3 and come back to the Coupé ownership!!! Come back to the BOOOOOST tshhhhhhhh tshhhhhhh... laugh


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Re: And here WE go... [Re: Markiz] #1474023
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Okay people little update:

STAGE ONE
is COMPLETE! smile

Long story short - There was few complications with the engine not starting. It turned out that because it sat for over 8 months in my garage the valves had gone a bit sticky! And eventually when we got it started the next couple of days in the mornings/evenings on cold starts there was lots and lots of blue smoke and some nasty tapping from the engine. Turned out that it was some valve that was still sticking and after a nice and easy 80 mile trip all got sorted and it is running happy as a bunny now - no tapping at all and very little to non smoke! smile

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And everything back together:

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It runs so damn good and smooth... love love

*NEXT JOB before STAGE TWO is to put a nice red rocker cover in there to match the rest! smile

And the dodgy part of it is that I`ll attempt to do it myself (first time)!!! laugh

Wish me luck! laugh

Over and out!

Ivan


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Re: And here WE go... [Re: Markiz] #1474371
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I would be interested to see what power that engine makes on a dyno now it's completly standard!!

Re: And here WE go... [Re: Markiz] #1474372
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What? You think it might finally beat my 16NA round Curborough, Marco? laugh


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Re: And here WE go... [Re: barnacle] #1474373
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Originally Posted By: barnacle
What? You think it might finally beat my 16NA round Curborough, Marco? laugh


LOL
Fair comment sir barnacle!
Maybe this year you will make it around spa with out spinning!!! Lol

Hope you & Mrs barnacle are well mate! Been a while!

Re: And here WE go... [Re: Markiz] #1474392
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Nah, not doing Spa this year; doing Lingotto instead!


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Re: And here WE go... [Re: Markiz] #1529120
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Now where was I with this.... biglaugh

What?! It was a whole year since my last post??? Jesus... Time really flies hey... shocked

And just when you thought that you got rid of me... nono


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...ah yes the Rocker Cover Refurbishment attempt!

Originally Posted By: Markiz

*NEXT JOB before STAGE TWO is to put a nice red rocker cover in there to match the rest! smile

And the dodgy part of it is that I`ll attempt to do it myself (first time)!!! laugh

Wish me luck! laugh

Over and out!

Ivan


And here is what happened!


1. Sourced a very good condition used Rocker Cover! (No cracks!)

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2. Bought everything needed for the operation!

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3. Applied the NitrOmors All Purpose Paint & Varnish remover.

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4. Gave it a real nice scrub with a wire brush.

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4.1. Careful with that Nitromors stuff as it loves anytnihg rubbery for a snack! wink

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5. Sandblasted the whole lot! As ME have no patience for sandpapering... rolleyes

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6. Went and got the roughest sandpaper I had in the garage and literally RAPED the "Fiat 20V TURBO" letters with it! yes

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7. Got a bit finer sandpaper ( P80 ) and smoothed the letters a bit.

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8. Got even finer sandpaper then ( 180 ) and finished it with metal polish.

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9. While I was at it I turned the Rocker Cover around and cleaned it with the "Auto Glym Engine & Machine Cleaner"

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10. I applied a very thin layer of Vaseline with couple of cotton buds on the letters and the face of the oil filler hole so when I sprayed the Rocker Cover I could just scrape the spray off. Worked perfectly!

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11. Prepared the Rocker Cover for spraying by covering all the holes with some kitchen towels.

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12. Primed the Rocker Cover with few light sprays and left for 10 min.

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13. In total I did about 4/5 coats with 10/15 mins between them.

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14. And at the end I carefully scraped the spray off the letters with an old credit card and TA-DAH! smile

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Not a Rocker Cover Refurbishment Virgin anymore! yipee laugh
Now I have to do the Plug Cover and install them both on the engine.

Over and out!

Ivan


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Nice one Ivan.

One question, though: does the VHT pain require baking to cure? The ones I found did, which is why I just used high temperature engine lacquer on mine.


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You should have used wrinkle red, no curing required although it takes a million years to dry properly.

Good work Ivan!

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nice job Ivan thumb

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Looks great Markiz. It'll be a cracker once it's finished.

If I could make one design suggestion for Stage 3, I would recommend including a Zender Rear bumper extension for the car. I've always found the the LE/PLus bodykit was left unfinished at the back, in that the existing lower bumper lip is a bit undersized when it is mated to the side skirts and front lip. It's as if the Fiat bodykit design department took an early Friday and forgot to finish off the project.

Here's some pics from my old Coupé with the Zender rear bumper extension (last pic also shows a Zender rear spoiler which I thankfully removed!). You can see that the bumper extension is in proportion to the rest of the bodykit, in my opinion!

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Here's a Sprinty with Azev C's and a Zender rear bumper extension
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totally agree with you daithi , le/plus kit does look better/finished off with the zender rear lip .

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Nice rocker cover! smile

Maybe this thread should be in the project section.


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Re: And here WE go... [Re: Markiz] #1529517
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it does look very nice indeed and give's me the idea to try it myself.
Aldo I have no idea how to remove the dam thing yet, can you just take that off the engine without any hassle?


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