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Differance between 20v and 20vt blocks #1537912
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What's the differance between the 2 blocks does anyone know ?

Re: Differance between 20v and 20vt blocks [Re: gillan] #1537934
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The height of the profile on the lock itself.

If you need a set Steve at Alternative Autos used to supply 20v turbo and N/A locks.

Re: Differance between 20v and 20vt blocks [Re: Countrycruising] #1537936
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Are we talking blocks, locks or a load of blocklocks tongue


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Re: Differance between 20v and 20vt blocks [Re: gillan] #1537941
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If we're talking blocks, the obvious one is the 20vt has an oil feed tapping for the turbo.

Do you have access to the tech data in the workshop manual link?

Re: Differance between 20v and 20vt blocks [Re: gillan] #1537943
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Re: Differance between 20v and 20vt blocks [Re: lost55] #1537944
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Originally Posted by lost55
If we're talking blocks, the obvious one is the 20vt has an oil feed tapping for the turbo.

Do you have access to the tech data in the workshop manual link?


Yes oil turbo feed point and a crank case breather port on the rear for the collector.

Re: Differance between 20v and 20vt blocks [Re: Countrycruising] #1537948
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Yes oil catch tank and breathers would be different.

Crank and cylinder bore is the same, but pistons aren't.

On balance I guess you could use a 20vt block for non-turbo engine but not the other way around.

Re: Differance between 20v and 20vt blocks [Re: lost55] #1537955
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Originally Posted by lost55
Yes oil catch tank and breathers would be different.

Crank and cylinder bore is the same, but pistons aren't.

On balance I guess you could use a 20vt block for non-turbo engine but not the other way around.


N/A blocks can be adapted for turbo, the breather system picks up on the sump breather port and the rocker cover to then feed to an external after market collector so all doable.

Re: Differance between 20v and 20vt blocks [Re: gillan] #1537994
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I'm struggling to find a decent 20vt engine everyone on here wants stupid money. Even though it's a community I'll end up taking my
Own engine out

Re: Differance between 20v and 20vt blocks [Re: gillan] #1538015
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What's up with the one fitted?

Re: Differance between 20v and 20vt blocks [Re: gillan] #1538211
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Is the compression ratio difference related to a difference in the blocks as well?

Re: Differance between 20v and 20vt blocks [Re: gillan] #1538218
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From memory 10.5:1 for N/A, 8:1 for turbo.

Re: Differance between 20v and 20vt blocks [Re: Countrycruising] #1542987
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No the compression is high for a turbo at around 9.2 or 9.8 on the 20vt


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Re: Differance between 20v and 20vt blocks [Re: gillan] #1542990
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According to the Fiat manual the 20vt compression ratio is 8.5:1, 20v n/a 10:1.


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