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Possible new coupe owner, Hi guys
#1541752
16/06/2015 21:52
16/06/2015 21:52
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Jk77
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Hi there guys, off to look at a 20vt tomorrow. It's in ink black and if the man's word is good it is in great shape inside and out. It does however need a manifold. Looking around 1000 open to offers. It has no mot. The reg of the car is Fxz 2038, anyone know anything about it at all? Any advice. Thanks in advance. Previously owned a very nice stilo abarth black with cream leather. Was my favourite ever car. Link. http://www.gumtree.com/p/fiat/1998-fiat-coupe-2-litre-20v-turbo/1111644945
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Re: Possible new coupe owner, Hi guys
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#1541755
16/06/2015 21:58
16/06/2015 21:58
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nismo
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Hi and Welcome , good luck with the viewing tomorrow
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#1541758
16/06/2015 22:39
16/06/2015 22:39
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Burbum123
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Hi and welcome looks good but the walnut centre console and fiat badge on the steering wheel not for me Also to be fair mate £1000 is aliittle steep in my eyes ,low mileage is good , no mention of cambelt change there's about £400 to start also what does it need for mot is unknown , when you view tomorrow lift boot carpet up and check for rust, mainly around the rear arches inside the boot , and let it run Upto temp and let fans kick in get oil nice and warm and see what oil pressure is ideally 1.5bar and above . Try and offer £800 worth a try good look fella .
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Re: Possible new coupe owner, Hi guys
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#1541759
16/06/2015 22:44
16/06/2015 22:44
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Jk77
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Jk77
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I would personally agree on both points buddy, these cars are few and far between on this island however. I did also have an ink black bravo years ago and absolutely love that colour.
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#1541766
16/06/2015 23:40
16/06/2015 23:40
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Jk77
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Yea was thinking of offering around 800. The guy told me cambers was changed at 50k and the clutch, discs and pads were changed a year ago. He told me on the phone there is service history to prove all this so hopefully he is good to his word. I've met a fair few jokers
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Re: Possible new coupe owner, Hi guys
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#1541770
17/06/2015 00:06
17/06/2015 00:06
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Burbum123
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Yes but the others have service history, mots, ect mileage not really a issue service history ect is !you could buy coop for £500 with 70k on the clock and no service history or pay £1500 for one with 120k on the clock with full service history. A car with out a mot is not much more than scrap value in my eyes . I've learned this the hard way
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Re: Possible new coupe owner, Hi guys
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#1541774
17/06/2015 00:56
17/06/2015 00:56
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Jk77
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Apparently cambelt done at 50k, new brumby discs and new pads, also new clutch were all done last yr. Apparently service history to prove this. Hope it's all truth as I have a good drive ahead to go see it. I've met a few clowns in my time
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#1541869
17/06/2015 20:04
17/06/2015 20:04
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Jk77
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Jk77
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Ok so an update. Went to see the car. Initial reaction Is was impressed. The paint work was very very good. Interior was also in fantastic nick, far better than it looks in the pictures. No rust to be found around arches and sills, under boot carpet was as clean and dry as a car of no age.
Now is where it gets a waaay out of my knowledge zone.
Car sounded ok on startup actually, after ticking over for around 5 minutes quite a lot of puffs of white smoke started coming out of the exhaust. No noticeable issue of reps at idle. After 10 mins or so of ticking over still random clouds of white smoke every 20 secs were coming out of the exhaust. I didn't drive the car as it is not somewhere I know and I was not insured to drive it so for me it's not worth the risk.
The fan in the car only works on number 4 all other electrics were working 100pcnt.
All 3 keys with the car.
There was lots of service history, a folder full. I saw receipts for lots of work done including suspension parts in the last 10k, clutch, cambelt, brakes, water pump, etc
If I was just going to buy this car on appearance alone I would be home with it now.
Oh yeah another thing is, the oil pressure gauge still read 3 bar after idling for 10-15 mins if that means anything.
Anybody any thoughts out there?
1 thing I agreed to was booking an mot for the car and paying for it myself, getting insured on it for the day and taking it to the mot centre 15 mins from him with him as a passenger. He agreed and said he would have no issue with that... I thought this was a good thing as it possibly showed he wasn't trying to hide anything.
He says he hasn't put through mot as he hasn't been insured on it since it has been off road ( hasn't been driven since last summer, kept in a large garage, he has about 5 cars and a huuuge house)
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#1541882
17/06/2015 20:35
17/06/2015 20:35
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nismo
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sounds like the turbo is on its way out so will need replacing causing the smoke , apart from that it sounds like a good car .
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#1541885
17/06/2015 20:40
17/06/2015 20:40
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Jk77
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What sort of money talking for sorting the turbo and would I need to take to a specialist? How safe would it be to drive as is? How urgent a job?
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#1541888
17/06/2015 20:57
17/06/2015 20:57
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What sort of money talking for sorting the turbo and would I need to take to a specialist? How safe would it be to drive as is? How urgent a job? Depends if you want new or used turbo and if you can do it yourself or have to pay somebody to do it Used turbos are around £100 but no garantee on how long they will last! New turbos are about £500-600ish or a bit less for a core plus fitting
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Re: Possible new coupe owner, Hi guys
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#1541889
17/06/2015 21:15
17/06/2015 21:15
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Jk77
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Well H_R (and everyone else) thanks for taking the time to comment. I think that's just a camera trick of some variety I didn't notice that in the pic and definitely didn't notice it in the flesh. Under the carpet in the boot I had a real good poke in there at the join of arch and floor and it really was in good nick, the slightest bit of bubbling and definitely nothing that looked a problem. Yes I would guess it would fail anyway as there is a crack in the manifold. Wish I could check that with the oil pressure gauge now that you ask. As for the turbo, I just about know how to change a sparkplug mate unfortunately. It is such a disadvantage as the wool is easily pulled over my eyes.
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#1541893
17/06/2015 21:48
17/06/2015 21:48
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motrilman
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On balance, if it needs a new turbo, cracked manifold sorting and other bits yet to be done, you are taking a real flier if you buy it. I'd offer £500 and be prepared to walk........
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Re: Possible new coupe owner, Hi guys
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#1541895
17/06/2015 21:56
17/06/2015 21:56
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Jk77
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Sounds like Good advice. I was actually thinking on my drive home of forgetting the mot deal and just offering him 650-700 and being prepared to walk at that.
My favourite bit is it is 100% driveable to me looks wise off the bat and I wouldn't constantly have the thought of fixing dents/respraying etc on my mind.
You guys know a hell of a lot better than me though about the likely costs down the line.
If I had any trust in a local mechanic I would probably be in a better position.
Just on a side note, I have wanted to own a Fiat coupe for around 5 years now.
Oh yeah just another question sorry. Is the smoke thing pretty much nailed on to be a turbo needing replaced or is that worst case and it 'could' be something else
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Re: Possible new coupe owner, Hi guys
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#1541921
18/06/2015 00:48
18/06/2015 00:48
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Jk77
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Jk77
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Thanks Edinburgh. All comments are being used in the internal battle in my head. Ha, I'm going to sleep on it and see how much my day is affected tomorrow
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#1541925
18/06/2015 02:19
18/06/2015 02:19
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All the talk that happens regarding the Coupes prices to be so low, yet it's often the people on here that drive the prices down! That Coupe, with the low miles and all previous history is worth £1,000. If it needs a turbo, then yes, maybe it'll cost another £500, but it's something less to worry about in the future. As the car has been stood around for a year, the 'smoke' could just be condensation/vapour or even something to do with the cracked manifold, depending how bad it is. It's a 17 year old car, it will need work done eventually. If it's going to be a keeper, then spend the money. If it passes the MOT, then I'd say it was definitely worth the £1000. If not, then see what it's failed on, have a good think about it and whether you can afford anything it needs doing to it before walking away. You could wait and buy a Coupe for £2,000/£3,000 with everything done to it and something like the turbo or engine could still fail within a few months of your ownership. This one is only £1,000 and you could spend the money on it gradually. Go for the MOT and see what happens. Good luck with it and I hope it turns out well for you
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Re: Possible new coupe owner, Hi guys
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#1542187
19/06/2015 21:07
19/06/2015 21:07
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Jk77
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Hi there folks. So after a couple of days of thinking of nothing else but getting my hands on that car, I went ahead and booked it an mot. We will see what comes of it but the way I feel it will probably take some going to put me off buying.
This leads me onto my next question... Does anyone know where in northern Ireland I will be able to find someone that I can rely on to help me get this car sorted. It is obviously going to need the manifold sorting and a high probability of needing a turbo sorted. Along with hopefully not much more.
Any ideas?
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#1542191
19/06/2015 21:24
19/06/2015 21:24
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PeteP
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Have a chat with daithi28 on the forum, he used to have a really nice coupe over in NI and is a thoroughly good bloke.
He lives near Downpatrick if I remember correctly, so can probably point you in the right direction for a knowledgeable coupe mechanic.
Join the club and barnacle will send you a holder for your new MOT disc!
16VT and X1/9 1500
We must all do our part for the planet. I unplugged a row of electric cars that nobody was using.
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#1542193
19/06/2015 21:35
19/06/2015 21:35
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Jk77
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I will certainly be joining the club mate. I will send that user a pm and hopefully hear something from him thanks for that.
As for mot disc holder, we don't display mot discs here anymore
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#1542198
19/06/2015 22:08
19/06/2015 22:08
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As for mot disc holder, we don't display mot discs here anymore So I should keep my October 2013 NI one from the X1/9 as a last of its kind then?
16VT and X1/9 1500
We must all do our part for the planet. I unplugged a row of electric cars that nobody was using.
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#1542203
19/06/2015 22:18
19/06/2015 22:18
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Jk77
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Jk77
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I guess it would be yea. In northern Ireland we don't display mot discs or tax discs anymore.
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#1542204
19/06/2015 22:22
19/06/2015 22:22
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Jk77
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Jk77
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I also love the fact you have an x1/9. Very cool. My list of fiats unfortunately is not too impressive (my stilo abarth was awesome though). Punto 55, bravo elx in ink black was lovely and then the black stilo with every possible extra and tan leather. Dream to drive. A guy actually bought it off me when I sold it to put the 2.4 engine in his coupe. I wonder was it anyone from here?!
I will buy a 500l in future if there is an abarth released for my family car
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