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Going off on a tangent #1563123
10/02/2016 11:12
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Wouldn't it make more sense to go off on a normal instead?


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Re: Going off on a tangent [Re: Wishy] #1563124
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Go off on a tandem; go off at a tangent.


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Re: Going off on a tangent [Re: Emjay] #1563125
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OK, why not go off at a normal then?


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Re: Going off on a tangent [Re: Wishy] #1563126
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Go off at half cock.

Re: Going off on a tangent [Re: Wishy] #1563130
10/02/2016 11:50
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It makes most sense to remain calm and focussed laugh

Re: Going off on a tangent [Re: ] #1563131
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Rather than to go off on one?


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Re: Going off on a tangent [Re: Wishy] #1563136
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Go off on a tangent: there is normally a tangential relation involved.

Go off on a normal: maybe there is no tangential relation involved

Go off on one: normally a relation involved


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Re: Going off on a tangent [Re: Wishy] #1563141
10/02/2016 13:22
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This post speaks for itself really smile

Re: Going off on a tangent [Re: ] #1563155
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I wouldn't have expected anything less smile although the original question still stands as it occurred to me today that this expression doesn't make sense when looking at the textbook definition of the word tangent.

Quick refresher course.


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Re: Going off on a tangent [Re: Wishy] #1563159
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Consider the flight of a slingshot. Before it's released, it is moving in a circle, constrained by the sling; when it's released, it maintains that velocity - along the tangent of the circle at the point it's released.

Imagine the sling being swung anticlockwise. When the sling is east, the velocity[1] is north; when the sling is north, the velocity is west, and so on.

The projectile is off at a tangent...

[1] yes, I know: velocity has a speed and a direction. We care only about the direction here.


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Re: Going off on a tangent [Re: Wishy] #1563162
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Re: Going off on a tangent [Re: barnacle] #1563166
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Understood and what I'm getting at it is that the direction doesn't change when it (or anything else on any curved path) leaves. The tangent is in the same direction [1] as the object is travelling at that instant.

The turn of phrase is used to imply a change of direction but the tangent is exactly the same direction.

If someone/thing goes off on a tangent then they are just carrying on in the same direction. It's everyone/thing else that's changed [2]!



[1] Let's leave gravity out of this.
[2] Assuming we're considering a curve not a straight line.


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Re: Going off on a tangent [Re: Wishy] #1563171
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Perhaps it's because the original subject of the discussion gets left behind at the most rapid possible rate?

Re: Going off on a tangent [Re: Wishy] #1563173
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No, that's just general chat, oh hang on...


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Re: Going off on a tangent [Re: Wishy] #1563194
10/02/2016 20:38
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I always wondered when people refer to cement / concrete as having "gone off" when it has cured. I would have used the word "set."

Sorry if I've gone off on a tangent. I think I may have simply gone off.

Re: Going off on a tangent [Re: Wishy] #1563205
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or set, can you still move?


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Re: Going off on a tangent [Re: Wishy] #1563212
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