Depending on your definition of failure, I suppose I might have missed something; although I've (admittedly vaguely) followed the "progress" of the wall for some time. Nonetheless, it has always been a showboating policy (hence its appeal to Trump), which will never be meaningfully implemented - at least not unless something more pressing than illegal immigration enters the frame (zombies, possibly?).

Apologies to the OP for the digression, but here goes...

Given that Cherie Blair is (or was) a practising human rights' lawyer, wouldn't it be a bit strange if she hadn't used the legislation in force as part of her job? And, being that lawyers get pretty well paid, she probably did earn quite a bit...
Wait! Are you suggesting that the Blairs cooked up an audacious scheme to get the ECHR adopted in the UK, purely so that Mrs Blair could make shedloads of cash from protecting dodgy terrorists?
Of course! It all makes sense! How could we have been so blind?!

Or do you have something against Ms Booth that you'd like to share?

Jim did not know your were a fan of the Blairs Great Her husband is part of an illegal war on terror and invades many countries .She on the other hand defends terrorists hiding behind the ECHR . Thumbs up They got both ends covered .

I'm no fan, I just wasn't sure whether you had a genuine reason for singling out Cherie Blair or whether it was just an odd way to bring the ERHC EHCR ECHR into this thread.

Again, apologies for going OT - perhaps we could enjoy your thoughts on the Blairs in another thread, Rob?

A lot of cherry picking going on here, Cliches aplenty, history lessons & what some are throwing up makes for speculative reading matter. I agree with Jim when he says that, anyone for a thirst for this kind of thing can dig up all sorts of stories, right, wrong, half right, half wrong. The Donald seems to be ducking all that's thrown at him, in fact the non Trumps seem to be lambasted more than ever.

Normally I rarely post up topics like this, these days, but I honestly can't believe how well Trump seems to be doing. Perhaps I'm a bit negative towards him when he started all his nonsense bully boy tactics in Aberdeen. Waving greenbacks in the air promising millions. Certain Aberdeen business men & counselors fell for his spiel. They even sacked a councilor Martin Ford for voting against Trump.

Honestly you couldn't make this up. Wee Eck got involved at the time when he was first Minster. Then everything went pear shaped & a lot of handwashing ensued. "You've been Trumped" the film is well worth a watch.

Yes Jim no problem .Its all fun

Much of the problem I think comes form the media trained politicians all looking and sounding the same.

I mean is there any real difference in the Torys and Labour now? They all fight over the same middle ground and bow to big business. It's almost a fashion thing in politics now. We re arguably more prosperous, and safe than at any time in history. But that is now boring and so the time is ripe for someone to come and shake the snowglobe In the US that is Trump, here the closest is Boris.

They get support because they stand out from the magnolia of party politics these days. The public like their passion, almost regardless of what they are passionate about.

Personally I don't understand all the fuss about migrants coming here and taking our jobs. In my industry the Board have seen the future and evidently it's in India and Poland, and when they price themselves out of IT work it will move to the next cheapest IT sweatshop, Africa would be my guess. Happy times.

No, you were not. If you don't know what you yourself are saying , how do you expect other people to keep up?

Thank you for the correction but the brexit is the UK leaving the EU . The Eu cant leave the EU so i meant the UK leaving EU i dont care about the rest of europe . Still waiting on the link for "Trumps ponzi scheme" . Will check back later ?
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0316-mcmanus-trump-rubio-florida-20160316-column.html

I've already explained it but I guess that if you don't read your own posts there's no point in holding my breath for you to read mine.

No provide a link to " Trumps ponzi scheme" simple . I dont what your personal opinion or made up stories i want good hard facts if indeed he is running a ponzi scheme .If his businesses are that it must be out there somewhere .Convince me that all i ask

Fact :A fact is something that has really occurred or is actually the case. The usual test for a statement of fact is verifiability—that is, whether it can be demonstrated to correspond to experience.

Link :An internal link is a type of hyperlink on a webpage to another page or resource, such as an image or document, on the same website or domain. Hyperlinks are considered either "external" or "internal" depending on their target or destination. Generally, a link to a page outside the same domain or website is considered external, whereas one that points at another section of the same webpage or to another page of the same website or domain is considered internal.

Rob, don't go getting all giddy about definitions of facts... Just sayin'

If I'm honest, I'm probably not too surprised how for some, the comments are almost personal & some are taking things just a tad too seriously, whether or not for instance if we were discussing this over a wee drink would it be any different. You see with me, you see what you get & I'd back anything I've tapped on here. I'm more than just guessing that things would be a bit different, but, that's the way with forums.Funny places at times.

As I've said the reason I've posted this up is the fact that I honestly can't believe how Trump is going from strength to strength. Obviously the spinning machine is in full operation, but it would seem, & taking into consideration the media & other over the top comments thrown in, it's still a big deal for Trump.

Guys not a problem . I asked Azzura for a link if he decides to send a link to one or not up to him .No big deal i will leave it at that .

She's not the worlds prettiest woman and has really crap taste in men?

No judge will send you down for that, but is it a crime?

A sense of humor is always welcome, but at times it does mask underlying feelings & I'm not singling anyone in particular out. Aye it's only too easy just to gloss over a remark or two. On certain subjects things do tend to go round & round a bit, then again I suppose that's human nature. However there are times on the forum I'm a bit surprised at other things, for instance when there is an absence from the table.

Just my observations

I don't think he's a chump, he's playing the game very well. Look at all the people who fail to get even half the support he has. He's created a mystique around his value and his business dealings. Fair play to the guy.
On him as a person, I don't know him and the press exaggerate and twist things, take things out of context on a regular basis for their own gain.
Breath of fresh air for politics, probably a very dangerous person to have in charge of America, maybe they should give him somewhere with a small population to practice on first, the antarctic perhaps??

Final thought - how does he compare to other current leaders? Cameron is useless, can't negotiate his way out of a paper bag, Putin is nuts and I'll leave Kim out of it.....