This is a bit of a rant but I thought it might serve anyone well who might be looking to join the Facebook owners group on Facebook.

Last night I was checking a thread discussing a car that is being broken. As I knew the guy selling it was hoping to sell the induction kit and FMIC together as well as the exhaust and downpipe together as two lots, when he said he wanted £150 for the exhaust and Induction I wrongly assumed he was adding the 2 together and said I would have it. As it turned out he only meant the Induction and I had read it wrong.

He then said that he would take £300 for both, so I again asked if that meant he was including exhaust/downpipe and induction. FMIC as he had bundled these together in other messages.

Whilst these couple of completely innocent messages were being exchanged between me and him an admin jumped in and started accusing me of trying to Rob him, and take advantage of a fellow coupe owner whose down on his luck.

I admittedly swore back as him as I was disgusted at being accused of something like that but then became the victim of him and another questioning my character and waving the "banning" card in my face.

Not sure if anyone cares about any of this but I left the groups as I was so angry about someone daring to accuse me of something so horrible, so I have nowhere else to vent.

I've seen the "holier than thou" syndrome on a few forums and groups from admins but never a Coupe related one. It also soured a potential deal between me and the guy having to break his coupe.

My 2 pence worth

Well, that all sounds pretty incandescent

What can you say or do.

The downside of Internet transactions I suppose.

yeah that's the annoying thing. As soon as I started trying to defend myself the admin repeated all the horrible things he had said about me and the other guy told me to get over it as I was boring.

Its a shame another potential avenue to connect with like minded people gets ruined by keyboard warriors.

Well. 3 of the admins named on that group have been banned from this forum.

That is not surprising at all. The guy who jumped on the band wagon I think was the guy who bought the 612BHP Coupe a while back.

Not entirely sure about that but I thought I recognised the name and the Coupe in some of his posts.

Another annoying thing is that I have let it get to me. I take great pride in knowing that I am an honest and people suggesting otherwise kept me up last night a little. I'm sure they didnt lose a wink of sleep

Superb advert for the careful and considered moderation on THIS forum - yes, there have been a few occasions when the moderation here has been called into question, but its usually from people falling well below the standards they agreed to when they joined.

Pete's comment above says all you need to know....

Yeah i've been on this forum and in and out of Coupe ownership for 10 years and in my experience moderation on FCCUK is excellent.

I shouldn't have sworn at the guy obviously but i'm afraid anger got the better of me.

Ironic thing was he also had a go at me because I was conducting a deal not in private message (which I wasn't), yet here was an admin actively insulting me in full view of all members.

It's the price we pay for being on Facebook etc. sure in the main the coupe groups are ok to look at and post a pic or two.
But dealing with that double barreled name chap is very tedious and its best to ignore him I find.

Sorry to jump in here....
You didn't swear back mate,you started the swearing!
I'll agree with what was said in Facebook you appeared to be offering the guy pennies for his stuff.

At the end of the day, over the internet we all have our opinions whether right or wrong, I promise you I'm not a keyboard warrior, I've little time for that stuff tbh. Got a business to run aswell as a few coupes and we all know how much time that takes! I'm sorry you felt that way but in my defence you started swearing at Ross, you can't blame people for reacting that way.

I genuinely try to help fellow coupe owners, I've even fitted a clutch for an owner struggling,ask GrahamL he's met me and I'm sure he'd agree I'm no keyboard warrior!

Good luck in your quest for parts

I swore at him in response to him accusing me of trying to steal from a fellow coupe owner. I have already mentioned in this thread that I shouldnt have sworn, but he misunderstood what I was trying to do with my message and then decided as his first port of call to accuse me of all the things he accused me of.

I shouldnt have sworn, but as far as I am concerned the stuff he was saying about me was far worse than me using some swear words.

Kerr: Why did a mod need to step in?
It's up to the seller to set and negotiate his price, so this action has cost him a potential sale has it not?

Fao Magooagain

I don't know you, so couldn't comment
I don't judge people until I've met them, Alexander is a good friend of mine and an all round nice guy, find it poor taste to put someone down you've never met

Saying you agree with what was said on facebook is ridiculous, I have explained that I wasnt trying to offer him pennies for something, as I tried to explain last night.

When I said "£300 for Exhaust, downpipe, induction and FMIC?" I wasnt saying, I'll give you that money £300 for those things, I was saying "are you listing those for things for £300. I was just trying to clarify and whilst I was just trying to clarify I was accused of all the things already mentioned.

Its crazy that you think its justifiable to speak to me the way you both did last night because I swore but that I had no right to get angry after being accused of all kinds of horrible things "stealing" "robbing a fellow coupe owner"

Hilarious

Sounds like moderation of something that didn't need moderating though.

The mod stepped in as he was swearing..

I swore after the mod stepped in...he did not step in as I was swearing./........that is a lie Kerr

I'm not interested I getting Into a debate
Only commented as he's made me out to be some sort of keyboard warrior, of which I despise!

And a good mate of mine has been slagged off when he's not even on here

so exactly as happened last night......a lie is told and then its no more comments

being slagged off by strangers for no reason.....that must be horrible

Still sound like a mod sticking their nose in for no good reason to me!

Maybe he was too quick to act, almost a knee jerk reaction in the same way you got angry and started abusing the guy, can't we all just get along

As most of us weren't witnesses to the events, I suggest that further speculation and discussion in public will simply inflame matters and no good can come of that for anyone.

Might I suggest that those directly involved discuss the matter privately?

i personally think this is useful insight for other forum users. More so than I thought it would be

I would agree

Its simple, if you look back at the conversation, I clearly only started to swear after I had been hit with a volley of insults about my character and my willingness to steal from fellow coupe owners.

All from an admin who chose to engage me without provocation and you who decided to jump in, I assume with no clue about what had transpired as you seem to think that I swore randomly at Ross before he even got involved. Even though I have no idea who he is.

Maybe in future if your not interested in getting into a debate you shouldnt jump in with sarcastic comments about someone you dont know concerning something you obviously knew nothing about

Aye, or should I say no, the ugly side of bookface. Never used it & never will.

I often receive offers against some of the items I have for sale. Some of the offers are cheeky. Some of the offers are derisory.

I have never accused the person making the offer of attempted theft. In fact some of the offers I receive (even the derisory ones) are accepted.

Similarly, I sometimes make offers on parts for sale, or even complete cars. Some of my offers are cheeky. Some of my offers are derisory. Some of the offers I make (even the derisory ones) are accepted (eg £175 for a 20v N/A that had failed its MOT on a brake pipe....)

Either way - a £300 offer for a complete exhaust inc downpipe, induction kit and a FMIC, is no worse than some offers I've had or made and certainly doesn't warrant a mod wading in and making accusations of theft.

However, in an attempt to maintain balance, consider the following two lines of text, with translation....

"£300 for Exhaust, downpipe, induction and FMIC?" = "That seems like a jolly fine price - can I just confirm you're selling all items for £300?"

"£300 for Exhaust, downpipe, induction and FMIC?" = "I'll give you £300 for the lot"

Same text - different meanings and (clearly) very different interpretations by the reader. If that had happened face-to-face, the true meaning would have been very apparent. Perhaps the FB Mod should have considered this fact before wading in with theft accusations.

exactly

Nigel my man, nail on the head. I've been banging on for ages how some forums can be funny places at times, simply as you've pointed out how things can get lost in translation. Some take things very personally indeed just because they've interpreted the message wrongly.

Aye the twitter/bookface can be a dark place at times....