Had a really terrible thought and might regret my vote now!!

Does this mean the de-regulation of the standard toilet roll orientation?

What will this mean to everyday people?

arrgh what have i done!

This is all I'm hearing, and I know there are quite a few embarrassed (not on here) people who wished they hadn't voted how they did.

Why should anyone just suck it up and move on? Pretty much half (maybe more than half now) of the voting public didn't (don't) want to leave the EU.

It isn't over and we may still stay in the EU.

What about them yellow pointy things on lorry wheels - will they still exist or can they be replaced with a different colour/shape? We might even find out the reason they exist in the first place............

Would they be the "pointers" on the wheel nuts? If so, they are there so as the driver can easily see if his nuts are coming undone.
Then he can tighten his nuts!

Spot on about regulations - we'll get to choose our own bog roll orientation and regulations for yellow pointy things. Taxes, planning, NHS, military, etc were all in our own hands anyway.

Our bananas can't be as bent as we like - hurrah, we're free!!!

Seems to me the Remainers are just like the EU governors they so want to stay with

Can't get a democratic vote on Mastricht ? Then lets ignore democracy and have another vote. Can't win that ? Lets rename what we want to do , call it something else and do want we want anyway. "**** Democracy"

I despair of the whole country's intolerance to others views and how they name call and insult especially from behind the safety of social media.

I was virtually away from any electronic communication between Wednesday evening and last night. Too preoccupied with surviving Goodwood for any real thought.

I'm very disappointed and quite fearful, but it has happened and we need to look forward and make the best of it we can.

Trying to force another referendum or not ratifying the result is embarrassingly naive and dangerously anti-democratic.

Potentially the ramifications of holding the referendum may prove far more divisive and destabilising than either result.

For many people this result has given them their first ever feeling of having made a difference politically - empowerment. That is what should make the establishment take notice - and feel ashamed for allowing the disengagement of so many people.

All I want to understand is what the Brexiteers will actually change (in detail not in broad "take back control" terms). I haven't heard it yet. I haven't heard what the fine voters of Ebbw Vale think will happen, for instance. I am just trying to understand what they see that I can't - that's not unreasonable.

On a separate note, a Dutch friend sent me a quote from our own Winston Churchill:
"The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter".

I'm all for being positive - I'm just looking for the things to be positive about. Brexiteers, please help.

Me too....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/hom...n-a7104191.html

I have a Brexiter friend who has decided since friday to put lots of Pro Britain posts on his facebook feed.

A recent one was a link to a version of the song Jerusalem by Katherine Jenkins. I reminded him that the original versus told the story of a young Jesus who travelled to England and set up a new Jerusalem. I commented that I hoped Jesus had a visa. He didn't see the irony

There's a lot of talk of people/organisations holding off on big purchases.

I'm not going to buy that Henry hoover now, and instead wait for the new "Henry Hurricane" 3000 watt super hoover!

And does this mean we get our weather back? Instead of just having nothing, punctuated by catastrophe.

The simple fact is it's a complete and utter mess. The only thing I hadn't given consideration to in this whole debate was how divisive it would be post vote. I fear it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better. And I'm not talking about the economy. The EU debate for many politicians was always deeply political and I think they'll now take it to another level.

They've proved that lower wattage motors don't make for lesser hoovers. Although if you're a man, you really should ignore that advice. Bigger is better...

It's OK about the power as the EU will release new regulations banning vacuum cleaners with British-sounding names with a Y in them

WOW

A car forum with all these politicians on it.

Out of interest, can someone define Racism.

No politicians just members of a democracy.

Why define racism? It's a pretty simple concept.

Define it then

The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

Quick question.... has there been any sort of manifesto produced that clearly states what will happen if we left the EU? Is that a no?

Whats to stop us leaving the EU, BUT the Gov implementing measures to replicate exactly what is happening now with regards to immigration/inclusion in the single market etc...

i.e. the Brexiters don't really get what they asked for.

Its no different ofcourse to a general election, parties making promises, people voting them into power and then not delivering those promises (tuition fees anyone?)

Correct, straight out of the Oxford English.

I was called a racist today for telling some bloke on a bike he needed to F@*^ing look before he pulled out of the junction in front of me. and also told to get back to my own country.

Incidentally he was of Asian origin probably born in England and I also was born here too.

Did you tell him to f*%k off back to the 70s you throwback freak?

Funnily enough no.

I was just confused as I am white with a midland accent.
I wonder which country he thought I was from.

I was travelling through Sparkbrook in Birmingham at the time.

I've heard that about you midlanders But then that's just a racist stereotype eh.

Must be

On a side note about racism, when I asked a local young white person if a non white (is that the pc term nowadays, never sure) person can be racist her answer was ...

"No of course not, black people cannot be racists"

I kid you not, that's what being taught in schools it would seem.

Oh and before we start calling her a thick moron, she'll probably get straight A's. (just for clarity)

...................................was you the only " honky " in sparkbrook today ? oops, too much watching " love thy neighbour " !

I still don't understand why you wanted it defined....

Part of the problem broadly with the immigration debate and more specifically with the Brexit discussion is that it somehow legitimises race-related views. I've lived and worked in 4 other countries (if you include Scotland - which, in the circumstances, seems fair) and I've never been subject to either racist or even nationalistic comment. Nationalism, racism and religion are all great seeds for hate to grow.

Something I didn't realise was that the current "2nd referendum" petition was created by a Brexiteer in anticipation of losing the vote

So, all those who say it wouldn't have happened if Brexit had lost seem to be wide of the mark - it seems to have happened BEFORE Brexit lost (or won) - too funny

https://www.facebook.com/Oliver.Healey.English.Democrats/posts/1741575492720794

As I'm about to board a flight to Germany I can assure you my motivation to vote leave wasn't anything remotely like that.
Part of the leave campaign highlighted that we are part of the world, not just Europe.
The news shows the worst in people. I hope to goodness leave didn't win purely because of such distasteful views but I fear that might be the case.

This is an astute observation. Something I argued way back on one of these threads. I believe the fault lies with the media and politicians. It is much easier to characterise someone worried about immigration as racist. It is easier to call Farage and his followers racist rather than argue the counter case for open borders. It makes better headlines to shout racists vote for Brexit. Consequently the debate seems to bring out racist views, but I wonder if it's always been there and never raised in our consciousness ?

BTW I know UKIP has racist members, so too do all the parties but we will never have a proper debate on immigration until we can recognise the difference.

BTW again Enoch Powell was hoisted on this petard but it seems now a lot of his worries and predictions have come to pass. Was he out and out racist or did polititians and media do for him as well ?

BTW The very topic/argument here make me feel very conscious that I ought to say I don't consider myself racist :-(