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Final GP of 2016 #1589443
27/11/2016 09:38
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Seems to be a lack of interest again but thought I would just say that we will be seeing two F1 veterans leaving after today in respect of PM & JB which is a little bit sad. I wonder if Alonso will be far behind


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Re: Final GP of 2016 [Re: Cooperman] #1589444
27/11/2016 10:04
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Indeed. I'll miss JB - I still think he's one of the last gentleman racers. Perhaps he'll come back as a commentator.

Though as I understand it there will be no free-to-air after next (this?) year, so it won't be an issue.


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Re: Final GP of 2016 [Re: Cooperman] #1589445
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Hamilton was amazing in qualifying. There can't be many people who still doubt his talent can there? He's just so much better than Rosberg.

I'll miss both Button and Massa but, if their moving on, brings more drivers like Verstappen, it's not all bad.

Re: Final GP of 2016 [Re: MeanRedSpider] #1589460
27/11/2016 16:06
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Great race.


And my 1000th post biglaugh

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Re: Final GP of 2016 [Re: Cooperman] #1589461
27/11/2016 16:12
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Exciting stuff at the end. I thought Lewis was perfectly entitled to race like that

Re: Final GP of 2016 [Re: Cooperman] #1589463
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I thought Lewis's response to the team was fair, let us race which he did. He did his best to back Nico up but ran out of laps and options.


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Re: Final GP of 2016 [Re: Cooperman] #1589465
27/11/2016 18:55
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I don't understand why the Mercedes team we're getting involved. They've won the constructors and one of their drivers was definitely going to win the championship.

Surely just stay out of it and let them determine the outcome?

Re: Final GP of 2016 [Re: Cooperman] #1589466
27/11/2016 20:11
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Toto Wolff said pretty much that: they want racers, not yes-men. Fair result to pretty good season...

Re: Final GP of 2016 [Re: Cooperman] #1589481
28/11/2016 08:45
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Also think about Rosberg not being able to challenge Hamilton even with DRS. That was "playing chess" at its best. Unfortunately Hamilton played the season without two rooks but still nearly made it. He is pretty good but Rosberg is not a poor champion either. To beat Hamilton is no mean feat and you need a bit of luck to be champion. Bring on March 2017.


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Re: Final GP of 2016 [Re: Cooperman] #1589494
28/11/2016 14:54
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Ironic really that Rosberg appears to be getting alot of criticism about 'being worthy' etc. and that LH lost the title rather than Nico winning it......... Ironic in that I'm old enough to recall his Dad Keke winning it when he only won a single race that entire season - but still took the crown and there were similar comments back then. Nothing wrong with what Lewis was doing IMO. Mercedes obviously just wanted their cars to win and stay on the track. Nice to see someone different win the title though.

Re: Final GP of 2016 [Re: Cooperman] #1589495
28/11/2016 14:59
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If Lewis was driving so slow why didn't Rosberg overtake him? I'd have had more respect if he'd at least made an attempt. He did Verstappen when he really had too.

Re: Final GP of 2016 [Re: Downhillryder] #1589502
28/11/2016 17:44
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Originally Posted By: Downhillryder
If Lewis was driving so slow why didn't Rosberg overtake him?


Risk of an accident, I'd assume.

It must have been a horrible dilemma for him; attack Lewis and risk a collision which could result in retirement, or hold position and risk Vettel and/or Verstappen making a move.

I think Lewis could have hit his 'see you later' switch if he'd needed to though.

Re: Final GP of 2016 [Re: Cooperman] #1589505
28/11/2016 18:13
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He didn't overtake because it's relatively easy to keep someone behind you whilst lapping slower than the person behind you is capable of. I've often been in that situation at Knockhill where there are limited places to pass. Lewis was going fast in the overtaking bits and slow in the other bits.

I should add that it's the same reason that Vettel couldn't pass Rosberg

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Re: Final GP of 2016 [Re: Cooperman] #1589544
29/11/2016 18:58
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I enjoyed watching the race unfold and how Hamilton would approach it.
The way F1 is, whoever has the most points at the end of the season is a worthy Champion. Same with footy and other sports decided over a season.

Hamilton could have enhanced his public image by being shall we say,"gracious" in defeat on the championship, but then people will argue that is not what "winners" do.
Hamilton did all he could in the circumstances and stood his ground v the team, testing Rosberg to the limit.
The fact Rosberg endured makes him all the worthier in my opinion?
Concerned no free to air coverage next year though????


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Re: Final GP of 2016 [Re: Cooperman] #1589546
29/11/2016 19:31
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I'd have expected no less from Hamilton ("Show me a good loser..." and all that)

I do agree that Rosberg deserved the championship.

Re: Final GP of 2016 [Re: Cooperman] #1589554
30/11/2016 01:17
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Amazingly I've managed to not hear or see who'd won the F1 championship this weekend, I finally watched it tonight along with JB and PM's interviews and can't help but feel sad that they're both hanging up their gloves.
Nico deserved this championship imo, he's been consistent this year and has handled the pressure and mind games far better then the past two seasons, that said it could have been so different if Lewis's car hadn't of blown an engine back in Malaysia, but it it what it is and it was good to see NR become a champion for the first time, well done that man smile

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