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Re: Times they are a changin'
[Re: coupedummy]
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05/07/2017 16:05
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Mark_S
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It certainly is going that way. I work at Land Rover and strange to see hybrid RR being built, but it certainly is the way forward. Be interesting to see how they plan to recoup the lost tax on fuel over the next decade/s Not sure they have spotted that black hole yet, can't put home power up so it will be to be via car tax.
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Re: Times they are a changin'
[Re: Gripped]
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05/07/2017 16:31
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DaveG
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The times won't be a changin' that quickly since battery prices and electric cars in general are still far too expensive IMHO. The previous tax incentives on buying alternatively fueled cars in the UK have already all but disappeared, and unless purely electric the road tax is no longer zero, I think the Government are not completely sleepwalking into this issue.
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Re: Times they are a changin'
[Re: Gripped]
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06/07/2017 05:37
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barnacle
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Re: Times they are a changin'
[Re: barnacle]
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06/07/2017 07:07
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Countrycruising
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California has a split rate tax on home electricity - up to a certain amount it's assumed to be domestic, but anything used above that is taxed at a much higher rate. Which seems equitable; if you have PV systems on the house you can store that directly in a vehicle at no on-going cost.
But the bigger problem is one I have mentioned here before, I think: the amount of energy used in petrol every day *just by cars* is approximately the total amount of the UK's power generation capacity. We're going to need twice as much generation, sharpish...
Though I'd seriously consider converting a coupe with a dead engine to electric, were the motors and batteries at something approaching a sane price. There's a small company here in Upton that converts petrol cars to electric, they finished a Black Cab last year that runs on its original gearbox which I thought was clever.
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Re: Times they are a changin'
[Re: Gripped]
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06/07/2017 21:46
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Mmmmmmmm. Tesla S in ludicrous mode !!
You'd need a G suit.
I'm interested to see how well the new "cheap" Tesla sells. I suspect they'll be a hit over here.
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Re: Times they are a changin'
[Re: Mark_S]
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07/07/2017 11:21
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Hoops82
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It certainly is going that way. I work at Land Rover and strange to see hybrid RR being built, but it certainly is the way forward. Be interesting to see how they plan to recoup the lost tax on fuel over the next decade/s Not sure they have spotted that black hole yet, can't put home power up so it will be to be via car tax. Total motoring revenue including fuel duty and all road tax is in the order of 35 billion (ONS-2016) is less than 2% of expenditure or revenue. It ll either just add to the deficit or they'll recoup elsewhere.
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Re: Times they are a changin'
[Re: Gripped]
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26/07/2017 05:40
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barnacle
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There's a company conveniently located in Upton-upon-Severn which makes electric car conversions. One of these days I should like to pay them a visit... http://indra.co.uk/Meanwhile, in other news, yesterday the Gummint announced that they would also be pushing local generation of power - wind and PV. This they say can be stored in 'old car batteries'... it seems to have escaped their notice that there's a reason old car batteries are discarded.
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Re: Times they are a changin'
[Re: Gripped]
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26/07/2017 06:03
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Gunzi
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Re: Times they are a changin'
[Re: barnacle]
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26/07/2017 09:41
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There's a company conveniently located in Upton-upon-Severn which makes electric car conversions. But I don't want to drive a Coupe that whirs along sounding like a milk float!
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Re: Times they are a changin'
[Re: MeanRedSpider]
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26/07/2017 12:57
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Posts: 13,200 england
came2dance
I AM a Coop
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I AM a Coop
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For me the internal combustion engine is one of mankinds greatest feats. I am always in wonder at the complexities that we all take for granted every day. Each time we press that button or turn that key (or have your mate give you a push start - depending which model of coop you have) an amazingly complex set of machinery sparks into action. The timing, the close tolerances, the machining, simply amazing. I think some iconic cars (coop amongst them?) will increase in value. Might be worth wrapping a good one in cotton wool and stashing it away for 30/40 years! The guy that owns the Trafford Centre had the right idea he has a Mercedes 1960's 250 SL on show in the warm & dry heated shopping arcade. On a plinth & behind behind ropes to keep sticky fingers away as a tribute to his Mum. Yeah right
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Re: Times they are a changin'
[Re: AnnieMac]
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30/07/2017 14:18
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Ballypete
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Ha ha Barnacle - I remember Ernie very well, I recently sold a teddy on eBay that was a Benny Hill celebrity bear dressed as Ernie, so I'm sure we're not the only ones ... At the time I thought Benny Hill was a bit naff, like Carry On Films and Dick Emery, but now I miss them all ... I would like to say that the first single I ever bought was Hong Kong garden by Souxie and the banshees bit it was really Ernie by benny hill
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Doris the 1998 Portofino Blue 20V and Zoe the 1999 Alfa Romeo 916 Spider Bog standard needn't be boring...
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Re: Times they are a changin'
[Re: AnnieMac]
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06/08/2017 10:43
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HiraethHuw
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Ha ha Barnacle - I remember Ernie very well, I recently sold a teddy on eBay that was a Benny Hill celebrity bear dressed as Ernie, so I'm sure we're not the only ones ... At the time I thought Benny Hill was a bit naff, like Carry On Films and Dick Emery, but now I miss them all ... I miss those folks too. My mum, now in her 70's, had a massive stroke and is now in a nursing home. I buy and enjoy watching Hi de Hi and Ello ello vids with her. Miss the quality comedy of them too. Also Ain't half hot, mum Ps Sorry Tobe for the massive thread deviation.
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