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Re: Turbo Dreaming ...
[Re: AnnieMac]
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07/10/2017 10:45
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Good luck, Annie. Although you could just put some vt badges on your Coupe n save a fortune. In our congested and speed restricted roads it'd be a rare occurrence when you could exploit the extra power. Oh, and get a fruity exhaust for yours while your at it. Parp parp
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Re: Turbo Dreaming ...
[Re: AnnieMac]
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08/10/2017 20:29
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P.S. Can old ladies find sugar Daddies? ouch, hey, gerrof it was only a joke! if it wasn't for that pesky Mrs c2d
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Re: Turbo Dreaming ...
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09/10/2017 07:56
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In our congested and speed restricted roads it'd be a rare occurrence when you could exploit the extra power. I'm very tempted to agree with this I have had my 20V form new in '97. I did not want the complexity of the turbo as an only car so ordered a 20V with leather and as sunroof. A decade and a half later I thought I should buy my retirement car while I can still actually get into it and drive it so I found myself a used XKR. The performance is noticably more exciting but journey times are much the same. Even on Autobahns, as they are mainly too crowded, and the rate that fuel goes down soon brings you down to earth. The slow 20V is such a nice car to drive at normal speeds because it feels right it just clicks. To get the XKR to come alive one has to drive it quite hard and that is not on much of the time so it ends up being used as a cruiser for which it is way over speced. The XKR is nice to have but the 20V is all the car I need. I just wish it had not started rusting so early in its life (front bonnet corners and sills). I'm not sure I will spend the few thousand Euros it would cost me out here to make it look good again
1997 20V 2000 V6 manual S-Type and 2011 5.0 XKR 2016 Tucson 1.6T AWD 2018 Mazda2 GT
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Re: Turbo Dreaming ...
[Re: AnnieMac]
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10/10/2017 07:04
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neil_r
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You drive an XKR?? I have found my sugar Daddy! "Drive": Well I have recently only been driving it out of the garage onto the drive while working on the garage itself or doing other stuff on the house we just bought. So driving is is a bit of an overstatement this year but it looks nice on the drive
1997 20V 2000 V6 manual S-Type and 2011 5.0 XKR 2016 Tucson 1.6T AWD 2018 Mazda2 GT
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Re: Turbo Dreaming ...
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10/10/2017 07:27
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In our congested and speed restricted roads it'd be a rare occurrence when you could exploit the extra power. I'm very tempted to agree with this Really? My dad used to tell me that 19 years ago and yet I've been driving 'as conditons permit' ever since.
F****** b****** thing...
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Re: Turbo Dreaming ...
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10/10/2017 11:28
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Most cars will get to 60 mph quickly enough and that being pretty much the speed limit level of most A-roads across Europe, being able to get there twice as fast is rather academic. Most cars grip well now too so they can carry enough speed through corners not to become a hindrance. Sure you can overtake one or two extra vehicles but at the end of the day you get to your destination in front of one or two other vehicles. Big deal.
Sure, sometimes one could fairly safely go a fair bit faster but we are not allowed to so HiraethHuw's comment is sadly true more often than not. Pointlessly blasting past other traffic just to be a few cars up the road when there is no significant benefit makes one look stupid for taking the risk, so one could just easy back and not become part of that embarrassing crowd.
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Re: Turbo Dreaming ...
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10/10/2017 12:12
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An NA will certainly get you to the same destination but surely the driving experience of a "sports" car is all about the journey and not the destination? Even if you never exceed the speed limit the driving experience can be very different with a turbo.
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Re: Turbo Dreaming ...
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10/10/2017 12:35
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Shove in the back I know about - the XKR is a fair bit quicker than a 20VT again, probably with better balance and more grip, even though it is a big, heavy GT but the Coupe is also not really an out and out sports car.
Even the basic Fiat is a nice drive that is the point. It feels right even if it is not really very fast or that capable. It does not really have to be blisteringly fast as that bit of the thrill is actually the one that is least often experienced.
And a slow car makes you think about what you are doing more, forcing you to drive more accurately and that does make the journey satisfying.
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Re: Turbo Dreaming ...
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10/10/2017 14:31
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Most cars will get to 60 mph quickly enough and that being pretty much the speed limit level of most A-roads across Europe, being able to get there twice as fast is rather academic. Most cars grip well now too so they can carry enough speed through corners not to become a hindrance. Sure you can overtake one or two extra vehicles but at the end of the day you get to your destination in front of one or two other vehicles. Big deal.
Sure, sometimes one could fairly safely go a fair bit faster but we are not allowed to so HiraethHuw's comment is sadly true more often than not. Pointlessly blasting past other traffic just to be a few cars up the road when there is no significant benefit makes one look stupid for taking the risk, so one could just easy back and not become part of that embarrassing crowd. I really hope no one out there ever bought a fast(er) car to get to their destinations faster? Sometimes my destination is the very same space I left outside my house when I set off!! For me, pootling along sensibly in traffic is part of driving normally. Maintaining a gap far in big enough to act as a 'damper' when the all stop / drag strip launch brigade are up ahead trying to create traffic shockwaves is far more fun than 'blasting past other traffic'. For me, the fun part is when the road eventually clears / opens up and the chap in the big V8 GT who's been trying to push me up the road for the past 15 minutes realises that the little blue Fiat isn't the pushover he was expecting
F****** b****** thing...
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Re: Turbo Dreaming ...
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10/10/2017 14:50
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For me, the fun part is when the road eventually clears / opens up and the chap in the big V8 GT who's been trying to push me up the road for the past 15 minutes realises that the little blue Fiat isn't the pushover he was expecting Totally agree with you. And stressing the car in front is the worst strategy of all, then even a little 20V can become hard to pass However, I actually usually let them go if I think they will not hold me up as I feel safer behind them than with them on my bumper.
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