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Wheel spacers? #1620399
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Anyone used those 20mm wheel spacers available? I remember using these on my mini to make it look meaner but didn’t think they’d be the sort of thing available for coupes?
Any pros/cons or just plain useless....might look a bit better with a slightly wider stance or does it just mess the handling up? tongue


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Re: Wheel spacers? [Re: mr_nobut] #1620405
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There can be negative effects. A change in the position of the centre point of the tyre in relation to the steering axis inclination (scrub radius) can have undesired effects on steering. Can make it very sensitive to bumps and can cause tranlining. Not always though. Also you'll need longer wheel nuts. Think spacers can also put extra forces on hub and other components.


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Re: Wheel spacers? [Re: mr_nobut] #1620411
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I had 20mm spacers on my 16vt with 18 x 7.5 wheels and 225/35/18 tyres.
It pushed the wheels almost flush with the arches and looked much better than standard imo.
There was a small amount of rubbing on the front but only in reverse?
Steering was the same as without spacers.

Re: Wheel spacers? [Re: mr_nobut] #1620418
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If steering issues do result then you can switch to wheels with an appropriately different et to account for the spacers, thus restoring scrub radius to the correct value.

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Re: Wheel spacers? [Re: OnlyItalian] #1620433
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Completely agree with you about maintaining the track of the car. Any changes I have noticed on a number of cars including my Coupe were always negative. OK, it can look better ...

Buying wheels to suit the spacers so that the track remains the same as factory spec is a round about and expensive way of doing absolutely nothing smile

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Re: Wheel spacers? [Re: mr_nobut] #1620435
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Yeah - that occurred to me after I made above post lol.

OK, so only choice if you want to maintain scrub radius would be to change the SAI or move the suspension points. Seems like a lot of effort to widen track.

Proper way to do it would be to lengthen wishbones and driveshafts and change SAI\pickup points. OK for for BTCC I guess.


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Re: Wheel spacers? [Re: mr_nobut] #1620436
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I think the op just wants to fill the arches a bit better without making his coupe horrible to drive thumb
Mine drove absolutely fine at all speeds.

Re: Wheel spacers? [Re: Dazvr6] #1620459
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Interesting points, I just saw them on eBay and though back to my old mini days...!’m not convinced they’re worth the effort of messing with new tyres etc but tempted to give them a spin (no pun intended) especially as them aresupplied with longer bolts too....anyone got any pics with spacers fitted? crazy


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Re: Wheel spacers? [Re: mr_nobut] #1620463
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Mini days - we had spacers and "165" tyres on a Mini that my mum and I shared decades ago. Tyres way too wide, giving grip - no grip handling and at least one wheel bearing would have to be changed every service.

If the designers meant the track to be wider, they would have done it from the start. I'd much rather a car drove as it was designed to than looked more like a racing car but drove less well, but each to their own.


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Re: Wheel spacers? [Re: neil_r] #1620951
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Neil, point well made. I guess the coupe is no ‘mini’ and I think my car ‘hotting up’ days are probably behind me at my age!!! laugh


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