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My better half is trying to convince me into a Giulietta Cloverleaf after her Abarth 500 recent purchase.
Is the manual versions better than the TCT auto versions ? Or does the 1.4 Multi-Air ( 170 bhp ) deliver the power better than the 235 bhp Cloverleaf model?
We have the diesel Giulietta, with the QV spec suspension/brakes/wheels etc, so happy to answer any general questions. The Brembo brakes are awesome and the handling and steering is precise and entertaining. But afraid I don't know about the petrols. Personally, the 235bhp would tempt me, as the chassis is very stiff and feels like it could handle the power. The 1.4 might be a better all rounder perhaps, but it's a heavy car for a small engine, even with a turbo.
Can’t comment on the petrol engine models but we had a 2011 diesel 140 bhp Veloce which was a great looking motor but it was fraught with problems. If you go down this road of getting an earlier one check the following work as they all failed on our car:
Goes into 1st gear USB socket No knocks going over bumps Brakes don’t squeal Rear wiper starts and returns to stop position Rear fog light Reversing light
The bottom three were caused by the wiring loom between chassis and boot snapping.
The 170bhp MultiAir is the one to have. I've had both this model and currently the 240bhp Veloce. The MultiAir engine and manual box was a lovely combination, really nicely balanced car. The TCT box (in the Veloce) is only usable in Dynamic mode - in Normal it changes into 6th all the time. In Dynamic it's ok, but it makes the steering too heavy. And it torque steers - the power is really too much for the chassis. But the 170bhp manual just feels fine in Normal mode, best Alfa I've had over a lifetime of them, I'd have one again.
The 170bhp MultiAir is the one to have. I've had both this model and currently the 240bhp Veloce. The MultiAir engine and manual box was a lovely combination, really nicely balanced car. The TCT box (in the Veloce) is only usable in Dynamic mode - in Normal it changes into 6th all the time. In Dynamic it's ok, but it makes the steering too heavy. And it torque steers - the power is really too much for the chassis. But the 170bhp manual just feels fine in Normal mode, best Alfa I've had over a lifetime of them, I'd have one again.
The 170bhp MultiAir is the one to have. I've had both this model and currently the 240bhp Veloce. The MultiAir engine and manual box was a lovely combination, really nicely balanced car. The TCT box (in the Veloce) is only usable in Dynamic mode - in Normal it changes into 6th all the time. In Dynamic it's ok, but it makes the steering too heavy. And it torque steers - the power is really too much for the chassis. But the 170bhp manual just feels fine in Normal mode, best Alfa I've had over a lifetime of them, I'd have one again.
Thanks Wink.
I think the motoring press said something similar, though I must admit it surprises me that the 1.7 turbo is too much for the chassis. It's a heavy car (like most these days) so I'm intrigued that the 1.4 is the choice motor. The 150bhp diesel we have, has more torque than the 240 QV, and it seems to handle it well (apart from a slipping clutch in dynamic mode).
It's not that the 240bhp Giulietta is a bad car - it's probably slightly quicker than the Coupe in fact and the ride/handling is surprisingly good. But IMO the 170bhp version is a better overall package. Just really well-balanced all round, with enough power, better economy and the MultiAir motor has a wider rev band.
