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Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: JKD] #1632108
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https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F192903183365


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Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: JKD] #1632110
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With the amount of £££'s you put into getting her mint I thought she would have to be a guaranteed 'keeper'? GLWTS.

Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: OnlyItalian] #1632113
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Originally Posted by OnlyItalian
Originally Posted by Brilly1uk
The FXX does sound good...


This is even better. Manual box helps...

https://youtu.be/d7NkxsvhdwQ


Yes, pretty good!


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Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: Brilly1uk] #1632175
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I think it's safe to say that while some old cars could achieve classic status and then even possibly become worth as much as what they were when new, the Fiat Coupe will most likely never achieve that.

Simply because of the fact that when you step back and look at the matter not as a Fiat Coupe enthusiast but just objectively look at it as a whole, it isn't really that much of a 'significant' car in the annals of motoring history.

The old cars that would have any chance of achieving the above will be supercars, cars with motorsport pedigree or cars with legendary reputations for one reason or another.


[eBay ad appears tomorrow of a £50k Plus that's had one owner from new, with only 2000 miles on the clock and it sells within a day. laugh ]

Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: JKD] #1632193
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From strictly an investor’s perspective, the Coupes likely to hold or increase their market values are those with undoubted provenances and kept 100% stock in exemplary condition as a neo-classic. Low mileage and low turnover of owners simply compound the investment appreciation.

The Coupe’s only missing link is the pedigree but the above investment criteria, applicable to most investable asset classes, override it.

Unlike Malaysia, virtually a Coupe junkyard, the UK does have rare specimens fitting above specs, gauging from emerging Coupe adverts with asking prices of circa £15k. Buyers at those prices are more likely to be investors rather than car enthusiasts, meaning that the market for exemplary Coupes is far wider and deeper than just Coupe enthusiasts.

As an illustration, I know of sworn teetotallers with the finest collection of vintage wines and rare whiskeys kept purely as investments. Enthusiast appeal always falls far short of investor appeal in respect of asset appreciation.

So will the Coupe’s value take off in coming years? It most certainly will but confined to very well kept specimens that are unmolested with sound provenance, staying true to its Turin factory’s origin.

Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: JKD] #1632200
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For what's it worth from where I'm sitting, & I do agree with much that has been said already, the Coupe does not have a massive amount of admirers or would be the first choice for a classic car collector, or even just looking for a toy for the weekend for several reasons. Not a well known beastie, even when it came out, I certainly didn't come across any until years later. They are a bit of a marmite car. Even today most do not know what they are. It pains me to say these things, but that is what I've come across.

Even true enthusiasts who know all about the Coupe would not be tempted by a really high price tag, but may be tempted to pay a bit extra for something that is in good condition/rust free etc.


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Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: JKD] #1632217
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Coupes are the nuts and this settles it. Here's my little bog standard VIS on 7 year old Pirellis leaving a 2019 M2 Competition in the dust at Bedford Autodrome...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTs9OL6MPz4&feature=youtu.be

Last edited by OnlyItalian; 04/05/2019 15:34.

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Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: JKD] #1632463
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Advertised my le twice now on eBay with no interest but I seem to have picked a bad time with 5 other le’s On there too, I thought £8.5-9.0k was a good price but maybe they are comming down? I wouldn’t let it go for less than £8k so may end up sorned and back in the garage for another year


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Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: mattcooke] #1632492
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How different do you reckon Coop prices would be if it had an Alfa badge instead?

Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: JKD] #1632496
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I presume you all,or most of you are talking about the less popular RHD models which has a small market. Where the LHD market is much larger and seem to demand bigger money at the moment.

It's all in the eye of the beholder but I'm afraid Fiats carry a stigma (in the uk)with many car buyers rightly or wrong.

In my opinion they are well built car and kind of funky.



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Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: JKD] #1632497
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Aye Joe is right about Fiat. When I was growing up the flavour of the day was Ford or British Leland, very few fiats about.


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Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: JKD] #1632510
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I think the issue of rust all those years ago has stuck in peoples minds, combined with a perception of reliability problems. We have run a 24 year old Fiat Panda for the last 12 years and the only thing it needs is routine servicing, conversely I ran a late 98 E Class I bought off a mate at 10 years old - nothing but problems. I fixed them all but the irony for me was that rust ultimately took it off the road in 2015.

Having bought a RHD Coupe and exported it to a LHD country price appreciation is obviously less of a concern for me. I bought it because I like it. Company cars meant I never had need of one when they were around, I understand the technology and like most cars of the epoch they can be diy with a bit of research. First and foremost however they are old school and they will never come again.

Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: mattcooke] #1632514
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Originally Posted by mattcooke
Advertised my le twice now on eBay with no interest but I seem to have picked a bad time with 5 other le’s On there too, I thought £8.5-9.0k was a good price but maybe they are comming down? I wouldn’t let it go for less than £8k so may end up sorned and back in the garage for another year


Be patient. There's not a huge market out there of people looking for these cars. But if your car compares well to the others on the market in terms of price, mileage, owners and condition then when a serious buyer comes along it'll sell.

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Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: jimboy] #1632515
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Originally Posted by jimboy
Aye Joe is right about Fiat. When I was growing up the flavour of the day was Ford or British Leland, very few fiats about.


Hilarious isn't it. All those people missing out on great engines, decent gear ratios, fantastic handling and brakes and peddles set up perfectly for heel-toe.

Makes them cheaper for those that know. I won't tell if you don't!


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Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: OnlyItalian] #1632517
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Originally Posted by OnlyItalian
Originally Posted by jimboy
Aye Joe is right about Fiat. When I was growing up the flavour of the day was Ford or British Leland, very few fiats about.


Hilarious isn't it. All those people missing out on great engines, decent gear ratios, fantastic handling and brakes and peddles set up perfectly for heel-toe.

Makes them cheaper for those that know. I won't tell if you don't!


Everyone has a story, what ever way you read into things. I'm certainly not being negative in my observations. If you could ask my family, they would all say how Dad/Granddad loves his precious Coop.


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Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: JKD] #1632519
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You wouldn't be on this forum if you were one of those in the dark. My post wasn't made in response to any perceived negativity.

Glad you're enjoying the coop, Grandad! smile

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Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: jimboy] #1632523
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Aye I know... smile I just didn't want to come across all negative towards Fiat in general, it's just my findings.

May the Coop be with you....... driving


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Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: JKD] #1632533
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The market looks ok for those priced at £4-6K being standard cars above that looking at eBay etc the bigger money/SE's and or highly modified cars do not appear to be selling for the sums being asked, there is simply not the demand. The Coupe does not have the cachet, desirability or perceived kudos (badge snobbery) of ownership, unfortunately it's days at sub £10K will be many I reckon for all variants.

Re: How are Coop prices going to develop now? [Re: JKD] #1632645
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I would do a deal on mine for a left hand drive and take it to my house in Spain but if they are fetching a higher price then that’s that idea out the window


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