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Re: Angle grinder disc loosening
[Re: Edinburgh]
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12/06/2020 22:13
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Hi Simon, I have had quite a lot of experience with grinders over the years and to be blunt have not really experienced anything like this. At a guess some discs wether the design thick or slim may need the securing washer to be turned over. My corded grinder , a Bosch requires this and I tend to tighten by hand with no problems at all. Without seeing the grinder I can only guess.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: Angle grinder disc loosening
[Re: Edinburgh]
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12/06/2020 23:06
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Funnily enough this happened to me recently (Coupe has been chopped with disc, cleaned with wheel, and the welds ground flat). With the heavier grinding wheel I've noticed that the deceleration can loosen the centre nut. Must be the centrifugal force or shock when it spins down. So I'm now extra anal about tightening the nut and checking each time it's switched on/off.
Point noted about turning the washer around for the thicker discs.
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Re: Angle grinder disc loosening
[Re: Edinburgh]
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12/06/2020 23:18
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Crikey that sounds scary! I managed to catch an edge on the Coupe metalwork with the woven cleaning wheel @ xxxRPM and the whole grinder flew out of my hands and into the garage. Managed to bend the metal work back..... Also a warning for the DIYers out there. I wore safety glasses doing de-rusting work with the cleaning wheel and got a speck of rust embedded in my eye. Trip to opticians and a scene from A Clockwork Orange and a very sore eye later, rust removed. Now sporting full goggles, respirator ear defenders and hard hat.
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Re: Angle grinder disc loosening
[Re: Countrycruising]
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12/06/2020 23:23
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Nope, this has never happened to me, the rotation normally tightens. Yes, this is agreed by all references I've seen. The grinder even has an arrow on the head pointing in the direction of rotation, counter to the thread. The loosening does seem to occur when decelerating. Oh and it was a heavier, stone-cutting disc I was using. Sharman, that's an interesting point about the crown wheel and pinion, are you saying this might be adjustable?
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Re: Angle grinder disc loosening
[Re: sharman]
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13/06/2020 08:45
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Scary is when youd be leaning over a sink bowl grinding away not paying attention and you catch your shirt, it wraps up in a split second and you get a grinder buried in your chest buzzing away while you frantically try pull the plug.
This happened to a friend's dad when I was a kid. As I recall, he was saved from worse injury by his thick belt/buckle. I've always thought disc cutters are the scariest tools seeing the ease with which they slice through steel or rock. A squidgy bit of human isn't going to stop it!
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Re: Angle grinder disc loosening
[Re: Edinburgh]
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13/06/2020 17:47
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I know that some fabricators consider it good practice to touch the grinder to the work piece to arrest the disc spinning after you've switched off the power.
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Re: Angle grinder disc loosening
[Re: mattB]
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13/06/2020 18:20
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I know that some fabricators consider it good practice to touch the grinder to the work piece to arrest the disc spinning after you've switched off the power. Yes, I did that all the time when I was working in the oil yards, I still do it now.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: Angle grinder disc loosening
[Re: Edinburgh]
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13/06/2020 19:55
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I was going to say that it may be a damaged shaft but it seems Sharman has it nailed. I've never had anything like that happen and as like some others I use one daily and have done for maybe over 40 years.
Dangerous tools and I've seen one very bad injury on site but not as dangerous a circular saw apparently.
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Re: Angle grinder disc loosening
[Re: Edinburgh]
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14/06/2020 09:54
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Do a picture search on the Lancelot Chainsaw Disc, a chainsaw disc for angle grinders - popular with wood carvers until several horrific accidents requiring hours in micro surgery having bits of hands sewn back on. More dangerous than an actual chainsaw!
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Re: Angle grinder disc loosening
[Re: Edinburgh]
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14/06/2020 10:21
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For me the tool I most hate using is a chainsaw.
You only have to look at the chopped up timber waste it throws out to imagine what it will do to flesh and bone.
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Re: Angle grinder disc loosening
[Re: Edinburgh]
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14/06/2020 10:36
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And yet used with an understanding of what can go wrong and why, it is actually no more dangerous than most other powered tools. A standard rear handle saw has to be used with both hands making it relatively safe compared to a circular saw or an angle grinder with that Lancelot disc on. I say that as someone who practices chainsaw carving with multiple saws.
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Re: Angle grinder disc loosening
[Re: Edinburgh]
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14/06/2020 11:55
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That is all quite true clanger, 2 hands needed and automatic chain brake but I still don't like using it.
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Re: Angle grinder disc loosening
[Re: Edinburgh]
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15/06/2020 10:35
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Before everybody starts chucking out their dangerous tools, I think it’s down to common sense when using, wear the proper PPE where necessary. I worked in the oil industry for thirty years and used some interesting tools. Weighing up all the facts, the worst thing I used was a pencil grinder, the fine metal grinding went everywhere, there was more incidents with this innocent looking tool than grinders. Just my thoughts.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: Angle grinder disc loosening
[Re: jimboy]
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15/06/2020 12:08
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Before everybody starts chucking out their dangerous tools, I think it’s down to common sense when using, wear the proper PPE where necessary. I worked in the oil industry for thirty years and used some interesting tools. Weighing up all the facts, the worst thing I used was a pencil grinder, the fine metal grinding went everywhere, there was more incidents with this innocent looking tool than grinders. Just my thoughts. Its down to understanding the the tool you are using, how to use it and how not to use it. For some people it can be intuitive based on previous experience for others training is required. There is no such thing as common sense otherwise we would not see so many nasty accidents
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Re: Angle grinder disc loosening
[Re: clanger]
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15/06/2020 12:48
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In the oil industry we were all given training on how to use certain tools, in fact I think I still have the odd certificate with my welding certs tucked away somewhere.  Common sense would involve making sure you know/ get training on said tool. You will always have accidents one way or another. Once you put a person into the equation it’s when something will go wrong, not if. Let’s face it all us car drivers have had training, but there are still accidents. Common sense can take several forms. Taking precautions and assessing the situation can all help, but accidents unfortunately do happen.
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Re: Angle grinder disc loosening
[Re: jimboy]
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20/06/2020 19:11
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the worst thing I used was a pencil grinder See, that's just macho riggers... in the office, we used a sharpener with a blade. Much safer. (p.s. angle grinders scare me, too)
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Re: Angle grinder disc loosening
[Re: barnacle]
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20/06/2020 21:06
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the worst thing I used was a pencil grinder See, that's just macho riggers... in the office, we used a sharpener with a blade. Much safer. (p.s. angle grinders scare me, too) The thing about pencil grinders was the fact that the tiny grinding went everywhere, no matter what protection you had taken, eyes being the worst. My eyes still have the marks. Angle grinders were far more easy to handle.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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