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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663035
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When I bought the Direnza rad from a uk supplier back in late 2019 I am sure it was labelled as PRC manufacture. The Motorstore pictures whilst upside down, I am sure are the exact same product as Direnza.

Either way if you go alu be extremely careful on the installation, those fins are very delicate...! Don't ask.


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663107
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Thanks, it’s on its way!


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663227
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Got the radiator, thanks guys!

I’ve got most of the parts needed under control now, but I’d really love a new coolant reservoir, mostly for aesthetic reasons….

Any leads?


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663232
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You could try cleaning your existing coolant reservoir?


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663233
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Yeah, I know. But the plastic is faded into this yellowish color, and on previous cars I’ve experienced that they get brittle and crumble when that happens.


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663238
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Originally Posted by Mags
Yeah, I know. But the plastic is faded into this yellowish color, and on previous cars I’ve experienced that they get brittle and crumble when that happens.


Ok, understood....bleach soaking not going to work do you think?


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663239
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Bleach soaking? Tell me more! How?


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663242
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Hydrogen peroxide is possibly the answer. If you take a look on YouTube you should find a few videos of people restoring older electronics by soaking the plastic in a solution

Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663247
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It could be caused by iron staining - too infrequent coolant changes/flushes. I have used Oxalic acid in solution in the past, you don't need much say 1/2 teaspoon in 500ml water and it just disappears the staining. Its cheap and will not damage the plastic in anyway, its worth a try.


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663262
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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: ePiFaNT] #1663268
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Exactly laugh

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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663270
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Best buy a new one laugh


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663273
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Yeah, but where?


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663278
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No idea, its not the path I would take


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663279
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Originally Posted by Mags
Bleach soaking? Tell me more! How?


Looking forward to the pics smile


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663511
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Are exhaust cams available? Mine has some pitting.

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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663513
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maybe try Joe @ FCSS??


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663516
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are all cams with part # 46443933 correct? It appears to be the same part for both turbo and N/A applications


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663521
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Originally Posted by Mags
Are exhaust cams available? Mine has some pitting.


Suffered corrosion at some point in it's life, turbo and n/a cams are different, I hold stock if you're unable to find new.

Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663523
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If I Google the part nubber 46443933, I get some hits, and most of them are listed as cams that appear to suitable for a wide range of cars, such as this:
https://spareto.com/products/ajusa-camshaft/93074800


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663524
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Honestly I'd buy the known good used ones from Joe, I just wouldn't risk buying a 3rd party one in case the cam durations are simply not correct

Cheers Jamie


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663528
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I found some documentation, and the timing on the exhaust cam differs significantly between turbo and N/A.

So, all the cams offered for sale at generic websites claiming to be "one size fits all" are wrong.

Well, I gues they are correct in the sense that they can be installed, but the timing is significantly different.

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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663537
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According to ePer all 20v inlet cams are the same (46443669) but different from 20vt (46414245) whilst for the exhaust cam the later 20v is the same as 20vt (both are 46443933) but different from the early 20v (46404716)


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663589
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Are there repair panels available, or do I have to make my own bits?

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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663590
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You'll have to make bits as you go

Cheers Jamie


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Jamiepm] #1663591
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Originally Posted by Jamiepm
You'll have to make bits as you go

Cheers Jamie


You beat me to it laugh


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663750
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I had these plated, and it turned out amazing!

The problem is that I don’t know where these go? !?!

Please advise.

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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663751
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Is the large one top right the horn mount assembly?


Why am I thinking "radiator support bar" ends for the pair top centre... chinny

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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663752
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But yes the plating does make it look that bit more special cool


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Re: Green barn find resurrection - Discussion [Re: Mags] #1663754
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+1 on the horn mount. You could also be right about the radiator support bracket.


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