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Braking - what to choose #235299
12/11/2006 00:20
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Decided to go for the bilstein b6 + eibach as a suspension pack...now I have to decide on how to stop the car...

I was thinking about brembo or tar-ox discs and ferodo pads...any thoughts on these? or should I go for something else for my 1.8? (257mm/240mm - f/r - I believe I could as far as 2.0 20v 280mm/240mm without any chages on the wheels or disc's fixings)

Re: Braking - what to choose #235300
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nobody wanting to stop a coupe around here?

Re: Braking - what to choose #235301
13/11/2006 01:42
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Olá, olha para ser barato escolhe Brembo Max que são uns discos bons para o coupe e para as pastilhas escolhe Ferodo e vais ver uma boa diferença para o conjunto standard.
Já agora aproveita e muda tb o óleo dos travões (DOT4) e verifica o estado dos tubos de borracha.

Abraço
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Re: Braking - what to choose #235302
13/11/2006 01:47
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Obrigado <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> isto vai ter que ir para a revisão...dos 100.000......ate vai doer. onde e que recomendas comprar os discos e pastilhas a bom preço?

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Thanks! it's time for the 100K km check up..my credit card will catch the flue

Re: Braking - what to choose #235303
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There are 3G discs on the group buy section matey <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: Braking - what to choose #235304
13/11/2006 01:59
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I saw that but...not sure if they are better than these or not...and are they a direct fit on the 1.8/2.0 20V? I can't figure out the size but the "code name" on the group buy evil

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Sorry but i don't know the answer but I'm sure some brake guru will be along soon.Heard very good reports on the 3G though.

Re: Braking - what to choose #235306
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lets wait and see then...thanks <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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3G discs are very good, especially in combination with Pagid pads <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/love.gif" alt="" />. There are some other options coming on the market from DBA and Tarox, but at the moment the 3Gs are the tried and tested solution for fast road and track day use.

Keep an eye on the Tuning and Group Buy sections, as there might be some further developments over the next couple of months regarding two-piece discs <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.

Phil

Re: Braking - what to choose #235308
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I don't think I'll have a couple of months to wait since my disks are already fully worn out..

Re: Braking - what to choose #235309
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if your hubs are the same as the 16v 2.0, then you can fit the 16vt calipers on 284mm std 16v 2.0 discs. If you have std wheels these may be very close to the rim. oh made the assuption you want to upgrade. otherwise get brembo OEM fitment discs and ferodo ds2500 pads.

rich

Re: Braking - what to choose #235310
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F40 discs will see you right, might cost you about £900 or so, but hey <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Re: Braking - what to choose #235311
13/11/2006 03:38
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sediciRich: not sure if I need the extra braking power provided by an upgrade...

Taz: if only I had the need for such braking power....... <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: Braking - what to choose #235312
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Have gone for the 3g 20 groove discs with Mintex "Xtreme" pads. Whilst they need to bed down more, they are noticably better already. Did not want to stretch to the pagid blues - I know they are good but they cos more that the discs! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

For any other 16vt owners considering an upgrade, Barbz does a custom conversion using the 4pot calipers from the Delta Integrale and 20vt pads and discs...

Re: Braking - what to choose #235313
01/12/2006 16:56
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I've almost decided on my fast road never gona see a track set up and I think I'm going for the brembo+ferodo...unless someone can change my mind

now...where can I get them at a good price?

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For any other 16vt owners considering an upgrade, Barbz does a custom conversion using the 4pot calipers from the Delta Integrale and 20vt pads and discs...

intersting, I thought that integrale calipers were 2pot...

V.

Re: Braking - what to choose #235315
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EVO 1 and 2 are 4 pot brembo's

Identical to the coupe, apart from the large piston is 1mm bigger than the coupe's brembos


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Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Braking - what to choose #235316
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presumably you need an adapter to bolt the calipers to the whatever_they_are_called, right? Rember discussing a long time ago the fact that the 16VT hasn't got threads on the the above mentioned things..

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Re: Braking - what to choose #235317
01/12/2006 19:04
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where....buy...brembo...discs...ferodo...pads....online...cheap....? tongue

Re: Braking - what to choose #235318
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@ BrianMay, consider the cost of shipping them to Portugal! We are talking about heavy items, it may turn to be cheaper to buy locally

@ Begbie: so in theory these calipers give better braking than the 20VT ones? and are the lancia on them removeable? I guess they wont fit with the stock 16VT alloys though <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Re: Braking - what to choose #235319
02/12/2006 03:17
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but it seems like you have to kill someone here before you can find any coupe products...and the prices..I'm ordering the billies and eibach springs from italiatec, and I'll save 100€ after paying the shipping costs...

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Olha consulta uma empresa chamada Stand Barata que eles vendem produtos Brembo e Ferodo a preços super baixos

Re: Braking - what to choose #235321
02/12/2006 03:39
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vou ver isso entao...se calhar dou la um salto que agora estou sempre em setubal durante o dia. obrigado

Re: Braking - what to choose #235322
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Well i wouldnt say better braking, then again, never really tried 20vt calipers


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Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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I thought they give an special "oi here I am" character to the coupe as then never stop squeeking <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Having a look at here VS this looks like they are compatible in their mounting at least
[sorry about the Greek, but the other option I figured was russianlike which I'm sure wont be of any more help...]

I could keep an eye for a set of these calipers, but as I said I've not got a clue if the standard 16inch 16VT alloys will fit. Ppl say they wont fit on a 20VT, so maybe they wont fit on the evo calipers either <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

V.

Re: Braking - what to choose #235324
03/12/2006 00:44
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has any one ever tried the tar-ox kits for the coupe? I'm not sure which one wil fit my 1.8 or if the are any good or very very expensive...any thoughts on these?

Re: Braking - what to choose #235325
06/12/2006 01:27
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so...last call....brembo+ferodo, brembo+pagid (what colour for fast road no noise solution?), 3G(which ones?)+pagid(which colour?)

give me a help please!!!!


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