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Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240534
19/11/2006 06:51
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Superb Flea..excellent!!! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Absolutely fantastic results!, I am going to have to get on the band wagon now! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

What have you done to the engine and turbo,.. 3071r? is it?

Are you still running the dual map?, surely not, and are you using the unichip to control the WI activity, or just a boost switch?

and finally , have you dropped the MAF?

well done again!!

Joe

And is this on forged or finally standard pistons?
need the spec! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> as I feel I with my standard pistons struggling a bit <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />, that I will need the magicians services myself in the new year <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240535
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just wait till a manifold is made up to match <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

only a matter of time.....THIS is the real restriction <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

I feel a project at work coming on <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

.....all good shite & that <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240536
19/11/2006 09:08
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Awesome, can't wait to see it, may even call off my request to the rain gods at Silverstone. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240537
19/11/2006 16:35
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So the gloves are off?

My reign as "UK's most powerful 2 litre non nitroused road Coupe" has been rather short-lived.

Flea - I'd really like to know your spoolup figures and how you achieved it. My GT2871 is about as laggy as I can accept (spooling by 3k, 1.5 bar comes in hard at 3,500 - 3,600)

Rob was certain that my small turbine housing is causing backpressure, but I'm reluctant to go for the 0.86AR housing, as my lag will increase. However, maybe the 0.86 with a different exhaust turbine with suitably cut back blades would help.

C'mon - full spec please <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240538
19/11/2006 16:50
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Fight !! Fight !! Fight !! Fight !! Fight !! Fight !! Fight !! Fight !! Fight !! Fight !! Fight !! Fight !! Fight !! Fight !! Fight !! etc <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Top work Flea ! And I wouldn't be at all surprised if you didn't tell anyone the spec - surely that is Mr Barbz's info ? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

PS Nigel, what "anti-lag*" measures do you have then ? You are getting the same spoolup, both in terms of gauge and actual push, as I am on my Junior setup ?

* no, I know you're not running actual anti-lag <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240539
19/11/2006 17:31
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Superb Flea..excellent!!! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

And is this on forged or finally standard pistons?
need the spec! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> as I feel I with my standard pistons struggling a bit <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />, that I will need the magicians services myself in the new year <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I would be surprised the internals are standard at all since he mention rev limiter at 7750 RPM <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240540
19/11/2006 19:06
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Nigel - Just get a 100 shot of nitrous, and lie <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />



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Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240541
19/11/2006 19:28
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Here is my graph <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Take a look...

As for mods, well I just strapped on a gert big turbo innit <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


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Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240542
19/11/2006 19:32
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congrats flea!! seriously tho rob is a genius anyone considering getting there car mapped i suggest perfect touch are at the top of the list of places to go. they sorted my car out and havent even got it mapped, going there to get live mapping done soon.

Flea cummmm onnnn plzzz tell us ur mods pretty pretty plz wit a realy big cherry on top? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

p.s 392bhp at the front wheels? is that s**t legal on the streets of england? lol


Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240543
19/11/2006 19:38
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Damn thats a lot of lag...wonder how you still write the car has a lot of off boost response etc <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240544
19/11/2006 19:39
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Um, the last word of the title of that .gif file makes me wonder if Mr Flea has somewhat more up his sleeve than just his arm <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240545
19/11/2006 19:40
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So... you are only making 180BHP @4500RPM, is that right <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />



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Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240546
19/11/2006 19:42
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Yeah I wondered also why the "fake" part of the title <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
But if the graph is correct, then its one lag monster, hence my previous post

Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240547
19/11/2006 19:46
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Even if it is true, he still has an extra 750 rpm to play with than us <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240548
19/11/2006 19:47
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s**t man i bet that comes on well hard look how fast the power goes up in jus 6-700rmp from 4500 - 5200 he picks up an extra 170 bhp and 160lb of torque danm that mus be hard for the clutch, tyres and gear box! i love it! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/love.gif" alt="" /> lol


Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240549
19/11/2006 19:55
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He He... sorry guys just messing with ya <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Here's the real one...

Old vs New


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Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240550
19/11/2006 20:11
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Oh Leighton you little tease <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />



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Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240551
19/11/2006 20:16
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incredible maping there, almost a linear increase in power, and where your previous torque fell off, it just carries on & on <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

massive area under the map, looks like a very driveable off boost coop also <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

...fcuk, I want my coop back ! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

good work there Flea, very impressed...

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Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240552
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These graphs show the difference between 1.5bar and 1.6bar...

BHP

Torque

I get a little bit more torque @ 1.6bar but it drops off quicker. I'm not sure whether this is down to heat soak as these power runs are just one of so many that you simply cannot negate the effect the heat building up. I'll be getting a cold run at Powerstation as I always do after any major mods just to see if 1.6 bar can give a bit more <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Incidentally, I am getting 330bhp @ wheels with just 1 bar <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />


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Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240553
19/11/2006 20:46
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congratulations Flea,

you got two beautifully smooth curves there <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

cheers

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Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240554
19/11/2006 21:06
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Looks like your extra revs aren't doing anything for you, as power has stopped rising before the normal 7k redline.

However, the extra revs WILL come in useful as changing up at 7,500 will drop you back to about 6,000 - 6,500, where you're still making loadsa power.

Without knowing ANYTHING about Flea's setup, my stab at a spec is:

Forged pistons & rods
Flowed head
GT30 or similar

Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240555
19/11/2006 21:09
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ye same as above smooth as anything! superb! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Looks like your extra revs aren't doing anything for you, as power has stopped rising before the normal 7k redline.

The extra revs will be doing a lot for him because it means he can stay in a shorter gear for longer with good power so will have better acceleration overall and it gives him a much wider powerband and so much better flexibility.

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Looks like your extra revs aren't doing anything for you, as power has stopped rising before the normal 7k redline.

However, the extra revs WILL come in useful as changing up at 7,500 will drop you back to about 6,000 - 6,500, where you're still making loadsa power.

Without knowing ANYTHING about Flea's setup, my stab at a spec is:

Forged pistons & rods
Flowed head
GT30 or similar

I hope he has the first (sure he has), would concur about the second as it was the stock head that kep me stuck around the 400-410 mark. GT30 becoming the turbo of choice, wonder if he has external wastegate manifold? Can't see the boost trace to know if its tailing off at all up top or not

Is there space in a coupe for an external wastegate?

Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240558
19/11/2006 22:18
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Going on Jamie's post a couple of threads down, it looks like there is.


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Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240559
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While my power may not be building after 6400rpm it is holding peak power to redline i.e. a full 1350rpms of 420bhp power <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> As John says, this means I can hold onto any gear right to the end as I am still in the sweetspot. The lower the gear the faster you can accelerate so having a wider power band allows me to take advantage of lower gearing for longer.


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Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240560
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your curves look amazing flea.. *not those curves* <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240561
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Fantastic results mate, well done!

Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240562
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this is for sure GT30 tubby power!

good work mate.. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Re: A few tweaks here and there... #240563
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Hi Flea,

Concratulations from the North (Pole) <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />, you have succeed excellent results!! You seem to have this "North Air" landed to UK too! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Now you have a 2 litre car, which really can compete against the 2.4 litre Coupes in 1/4 mile <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. I guess you can hit some 12.5s / +120 mph (normal street tires) with this power and go even low 12s with DOT approved slicks.
Next summer these will be also my goals <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.

I'm really happy to see, that the 2.4 litre is not the only way to go and also I think that with the "low <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />" torque of the 2 litre engine will save some money, when we think gearbox, clucth etc.

Regards,

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