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Should I sell Or Repair #256570
11/12/2006 18:53
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Hello guys was told by the guy at power fiat that this was the place for advice. I just wanted some opinions. I have recently rushed in and bought a 1999 Red 20vt with 100,000 miles every reciept since new serviced every 10,0000, oil change every 5,000 belts done new cluth 10,000 miles ago a wad of history basically, the car on the outside is dent and rust free and the paintwork is as good as you can get on this age of car and the interior is like new no marks nothing everything electrical works apart from the seatbelt light is a bit flicky but thats it.

I bought the car 3 weeks ago which was advertised at £3,500 after haggling and the seller being let down buy numerous buyers I offered £2,500 which he took (he said grudgingly)

It ticked all the boxes all it needed was new brakes as these had warped which i thought hey so what, after driving the car for a week i thought sweet I have got an amazing car the turb kicked in at 3,000 revs and my liver felt like it was slipping out of my body I had a week and a bit of bliss its was perfect in every way

2 days ago, showing off my to my friends as you do I was bragging and talking about the powwweeeerrr my buddys very impressed i took them out the instantly wanted one, I then followed my mate who has a cavalier sri (no competition) to his house he put his foot down so did i a huge grin as the turbo kicked in at 2nd, gear, then 3rd no turbo, still going quick 4th no turbo oh dear the cav was pulling away oh well my turbo is knackered bugger, we got to my mates house then we noticed a tapety sound oh dear no turbo new tappets how fragile is this car!

Today went to power fiat and oh no worst sound you can get on a coupe it needs a new engine you bought a lemon

so my dilema get a new used engine for a car i really love the look off and had a great time in at a cost of £2000 really all in maybe more



or flog it as broken

Im sure some of you have been there what do you think

Re: Should I sell Or Repair #256571
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Tallk to Carlt now...



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Re: Should I sell Or Repair #256572
11/12/2006 19:16
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his mailbox is exceeded!

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have got in touch i think i will go for the engine tbh just think any other t-reg i wouldnt consider it for 1 second coupes just look fantastic and when they work jeezzz

Re: Should I sell Or Repair #256574
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Fix it and stay on the forum for advice and help. CarlT will see you right with a replacement engine and you'll be sorted.

Just watch that "loud pedal"


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Re: Should I sell Or Repair #256575
11/12/2006 22:28
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i think thats what i will do im use to throwing money away on cars, forgot to mention when i bought it it was missing the rubber arch

http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=259472&an=0&page=0#Post259472

where can i get a new one? fiat, ebay? any idea what to ask for obviously needs sorting

Re: Should I sell Or Repair #256576
11/12/2006 22:42
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Ask one of the breakers on here CarlT should be able to sirt that one out for you dead easy.

Just one thing though, no doubt loads of people will tell you the same, when you get the engine fitted keep a close eye on the oil level, the 20VT can use a lot of oil so it pays to check it very very very often!


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I was aware of that i checked it every couple of days since i had it although most days i was struggling to see on the dipstick how do u get around that prob especially when the oil is clean

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Mark the dipstick (lightly) with chalk first


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Re: Should I sell Or Repair #256579
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oil is never transparent. if you cant see it on the dipstick then it aint there.


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Re: Should I sell Or Repair #256580
11/12/2006 23:32
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ok got that oil oil oil

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...how do u get around that prob especially when the oil is clean




If the oil on the dipstick is clear, you're looking at the wrong one! Transmission fluid is clear and the dipstick for this is near the brake fluid resevoir, the engine oil dipstick is at the back left of the engine as you look in the engine bay with the bonnet open.

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12/12/2006 00:31
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yeah i know where it is i just find it hard to see after a few attempts and my neighbour looking over my shoulder we see it and it was fine on mine so was my oil pressure

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maybe pays to test drive for longer i took mine for 1 hour drive , gave it a pacing ,

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Keep it obviously,why obvouusly you will ask.Well the next one you will buy could go exactly the same way and if you rebuild what you have ,you at least know what you have got.
Simple or what?

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i was in the same dillema only i have owned mine for 2 years and the finance was piad up the week it broke so i got it done.

but if i was in your shoes having only owned it for a few weeks i'd bin it or buy another and use it for spares!

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More important than how long you have owned it is what has been done to it in terms of maintenance,mods,and its condition.Surely if its really nice in every way why "bin it or use it for spares"

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More important than how long you have owned it is what has been done to it in terms of maintenance,mods,and its condition.Surely if its really nice in every way why "bin it or use it for spares"




thats my thinking at the moment the car has no dents and the paintwork is bright im finding it hard to get in contact with carl about this engine is he always hard to contact?

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14/12/2006 17:26
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14/12/2006 18:27
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More important than how long you have owned it is what has been done to it in terms of maintenance,mods,and its condition.Surely if its really nice in every way why "bin it or use it for spares"




thats my thinking at the moment the car has no dents and the paintwork is bright im finding it hard to get in contact with carl about this engine is he always hard to contact?





Nope he is just generally very busy, and as i said engine isnt here till sometime Thursday.

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More important than how long you have owned it is what has been done to it in terms of maintenance,mods,and its condition.Surely if its really nice in every way why "bin it or use it for spares"




thats my thinking at the moment the car has no dents and the paintwork is bright im finding it hard to get in contact with carl about this engine is he always hard to contact?






Nope he is just generally very busy, and as i said engine isnt here till sometime Thursday.





I was panaking cos i took it you said wednesday my apologies Carl

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Re: Should I sell Or Repair #256591
15/12/2006 02:40
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im not great at mechanics i know how to service a car, change a alternator/battery etc on regular oldish cars like astras and escorts but thats about it but why cant you repair the engine when the big end goes on a coupe is it just better to get a new engine?

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Just out of interest how much is a new engine? I assume a new
engine is worse case senario if a new one is required.

Re: Should I sell Or Repair #256593
15/12/2006 19:41
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ive been told not to get it remanufactured by people with no experiance in coupes but they charge just under £2000 and it`ll probably break, second hand engine seems to £750ish i think if you can find one then the same to fit it im quite depressed about the whole thing to be honest i bought it to drive on the weekend as I have a driving job and hate driving my work car but its HORRIBLE AT THE MOMENT!

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ANY ONE HAVE A BETTER OPYION LET ME KNOW?

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Still with used, dont get a remanufactured one as i found out, it can go horribly wrong... about to build another engine

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ANY ONE HAVE A BETTER OPYION LET ME KNOW?




Not had chance to look at this one, been shopping all day, only got 3 hours in at work.

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16/12/2006 02:46
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I wasnt very well today so stayed at home and did ring a couple of people I would not touch a remanufactured engine with a large stick now i`ve heard what problems they give, I have been offered engines from breakers yards with 6 month gaurantee all interestingly enough seem to have 30,000 miles but no proof of this can be given for some reason, for about £1000 but im not convinced I`ll wait for Carl me thinks he seems very trusted on the forum and everyone else that deals in coupes whos not on the forum seems to be a wicked bodger of the highest degree, its tempting to get a engine from fiat but I cant afford to do that and improve the car as well.


My mate swears by these guys http://www.reconditioned-engines.co.uk/thanks.shtml they said they could tow my car away fit new engine and have back in a 3 days with 5 year warranty but after talking to the knowledgable fella at power fiat he said i`ll have trouble and im inclined to believe him as they seem to give a 10% discount for paying by Cash/ bank transfer (dodgy hey) im sure there fine for a ford fiesta or punto or sommink similar.

hey ho the quest goes on the world of coupes is damn strange imo!

thanks for talking to me guys!

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16/12/2006 02:54
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Yeh i always say that, why are there no 30k coupe's on the roads, but loads in the scrap yards.

Many believe them though, i had someone cancel on me after sending a 65k engine as they found a 24k unit, they did call me 2 months later when a hole appeared in it!

As for a 5 year warranty, god there desperate, obvioulsy already planned when there going bust.

And 3 days for the work

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hey I have had loads of other sporty cars and never never have i had this hastle! well renault 5 turbo but i was so green i was grass

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