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Chip for 20vt #267284 30/12/2006 21:19 30/12/2006 21:19
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 787 Midlands ash_p OP Club member 2001
ash_p OP Club member 2001 Enjoying the ride Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 787 Midlands	I have seen this gtec chip on ebay- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GTEC-Fiat-Coupe-20...1QQcmdZViewItem I am not sure if its any good, has anyone on here brought one from this seller and does it work ok. My 20vt only has k&n induction kit, and want to know which chip is the best, gtec1- gtec 2 or the novatech chip. I will eventually get a cat back 3" striaght through exhuast. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ash 335bhp gt28rsr

Re: Chip for 20vt #267285 30/12/2006 21:21 30/12/2006 21:21
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 991 Drakelow Jamiepm Club member 1989
Jamiepm Club member 1989 Enjoying the ride Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 991 Drakelow	get a GTEC 1 from GrahamL Jamie She's alive!

Re: Chip for 20vt #267286 30/12/2006 21:24 30/12/2006 21:24
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,917 J JimO Forum veteran
JimO Forum veteran J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,917	For your car you would be best off with a gtech1, which that chip claims to be, but you would be better off getting it direct from GrahamL on here as he makes them and sells them cheaper than that one on ebay, his ebay name is traumax.

Re: Chip for 20vt #267287 30/12/2006 23:04 30/12/2006 23:04
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	I have the Novitec chip.Similar to the gtec 1 for results and was supplied by graham l.Pm me if your interested

Re: Chip for 20vt #267288 01/01/2007 00:58 01/01/2007 00:58
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Thanks for bringing this to my attention, seems this guy has been selling copied GTEC's for a few weeks. Anyone know any details of the seller? But yeah, Ash, if you want a chip just PM me on here.

Re: Chip for 20vt #267289 01/01/2007 01:02 01/01/2007 01:02
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 19,937 North wales pinin_prestatyn Forum veteran
pinin_prestatyn Forum veteran Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 19,937 North wales	Cheeky mofo I hope you have contacted this little monkey Graham! He's basically taking crisp twenty pound notes from your very pocket Coopless!

Re: Chip for 20vt #267290 01/01/2007 01:08 01/01/2007 01:08
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Yup I've mailed him through ebay. I guess it must be someone from here , or at least who reads here, otherwise why would he call it Gtec?

Re: Chip for 20vt #267291 01/01/2007 01:24 01/01/2007 01:24
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Have you copyrighted it? Ross

Re: Chip for 20vt #267292 01/01/2007 02:27 01/01/2007 02:27
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Hmmm... he says he bought 5 chips from the "official Gtec supplier in South Africa" and is just re-selling them. Strange then that his listing text is almost identical to mine and he's using the fitting guide link from my webspace. Anyone know who this guy is?

Re: Chip for 20vt #267293 01/01/2007 02:33 01/01/2007 02:33
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Yeah i noticed it was your fitting guide aswell. South africe supplier? Lol. Ross

Re: Chip for 20vt #267294 01/01/2007 04:58 01/01/2007 04:58
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,568 Northampton England Sedicivalvole Club member 2092
Sedicivalvole Club member 2092 Forum is my life Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,568 Northampton England	Thats not on really is it Vinci Grey LE Alfa 147 GTA 3.2 V6 BMW E92 M3 4.0 V8 Fiat Tipo Sedicivalvole 2.0 16v ABS

Re: Chip for 20vt #267295 01/01/2007 17:19 01/01/2007 17:19
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 787 Midlands ash_p OP Club member 2001
ash_p OP Club member 2001 Enjoying the ride Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 787 Midlands	I didn't know he was coping you . Well its not fair taking your chip and selling it for himself. I am going to wait for abit to get a chip thanks graham, i have been advised to buy a fmic before i increase the boost. don't want to kill my engine. Ash 335bhp gt28rsr

Re: Chip for 20vt #267296 01/01/2007 18:44 01/01/2007 18:44
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	the gtec 1 is ok wihout a fmic. Ross

Re: Chip for 20vt #267297 01/01/2007 20:14 01/01/2007 20:14
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	This time of year the fmic isnt so important due to the cold intake temps.But the stock intercooler IMO is very poor at reducing temps... A fmic is a do as soon as possible if your going to try to optimise the power from the engine..

Re: Chip for 20vt #267298 01/01/2007 21:20 01/01/2007 21:20
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: Hmmm... he says he bought 5 chips from the "official Gtec supplier in South Africa" and is just re-selling them. Strange then that his listing text is almost identical to mine and he's using the fitting guide link from my webspace. Anyone know who this guy is? The worst part of this whole thing is the fact that he's linking to your website !! That is just BLATANTLY taking the p1ss.

Re: Chip for 20vt #267299 01/01/2007 21:31 01/01/2007 21:31
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,960 west bromwich C coupedummy Je suis un Coupé
coupedummy Je suis un Coupé C Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,960 west bromwich	copyright it!!!

Re: Chip for 20vt #267300 01/01/2007 21:51 01/01/2007 21:51
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	I didn't make the fitting guide, although it's on my webspace. Think it was done by one of the German tuning companies years ago.

Re: Chip for 20vt #267301 01/01/2007 21:53 01/01/2007 21:53
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,568 Northampton England Sedicivalvole Club member 2092
Sedicivalvole Club member 2092 Forum is my life Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,568 Northampton England	Want me to send the lads round? Vinci Grey LE Alfa 147 GTA 3.2 V6 BMW E92 M3 4.0 V8 Fiat Tipo Sedicivalvole 2.0 16v ABS

Re: Chip for 20vt #267302 02/01/2007 20:12 02/01/2007 20:12
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	This guide was made by a guy called Urs. His Forum Name was Twain. He wrote this guide many years ago. Maybe some of you can remember him. Hi also made the famous Eprom Switch. Thats always a problem, if someone sells stolen Eprom data. But we have to remember, that Graham did not write his own chip data, he just changed some of the data, made by another company. But who cares, the Gtec chip is great

Re: Chip for 20vt #267303 02/01/2007 20:34 02/01/2007 20:34
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: Thats always a problem, if someone sells stolen Eprom data. But we have to remember, that Graham did not write his own chip data, he just changed some of the data, made by another company. But then again almost every tuning company works like that. They first copy the orginal manufacturers chip and modify a few parameters to increase performance.

Re: Chip for 20vt #267304 02/01/2007 22:36 02/01/2007 22:36
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Yes, 99% of all these tuning chips are just the original fiat/bosch data, only a few maps are changed. There are actually more maps changed between Gtec1 and Novitec than between a 20vt Superchip and the original fiat version.

Re: Chip for 20vt #267305 02/01/2007 22:41 02/01/2007 22:41
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,033 I WANT F40 S S1MMA Competition Level
S1MMA Competition Level S Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,033 I WANT F40	at the end of the day, chips taste nice but are full of saturated fats, so try to cut down if you can. Health warning over. BTW, I've been running a Gtech 1 for a year and a half with no FMIC and have had no problems, but then my car is has done low miles and has an oil change every 6k miles. Boost at 1.1 bar currently, 1.2 bar max. Sideways a LOT

Re: Chip for 20vt #267306 02/01/2007 22:52 02/01/2007 22:52
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,568 Northampton England Sedicivalvole Club member 2092
Sedicivalvole Club member 2092 Forum is my life Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,568 Northampton England	Offer still stands of sending the lads round Graham Vinci Grey LE Alfa 147 GTA 3.2 V6 BMW E92 M3 4.0 V8 Fiat Tipo Sedicivalvole 2.0 16v ABS

Re: Chip for 20vt #267307 02/01/2007 23:09 02/01/2007 23:09
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	^^ I'll keep you posted on that, but I don't think the guy is gonna list any more chips now.

Re: Chip for 20vt #267308 02/01/2007 23:45 02/01/2007 23:45
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Pm sent iro chip GrahamL

Re: Chip for 20vt #267309 03/01/2007 03:07 03/01/2007 03:07
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,831 Haslemere, Surrey M Mark_S Forum is my job
Mark_S Forum is my job M Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,831 Haslemere, Surrey	Quote: I didn't know he was coping you . Well its not fair taking your chip and selling it for himself. Sorry to say, but I can't see this is very much different from GL and the Novitech situation 997 C4S

Re: Chip for 20vt #267310 03/01/2007 04:51 03/01/2007 04:51
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	I think it's completely different. (Although I don't remember the GL/Novitec Issue ). This person is using the Gtec Name to sell his chips and Graham has made a clear difference between his chip and the Novitec. Althought the map was used as a guide, it was never the same map.

Re: Chip for 20vt #267311 03/01/2007 05:04 03/01/2007 05:04
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	If they are Gtec chips he has bought, used and is selling on then its his property to sell and advertise using the brand name I would think. If its a copy of a Gtec chip, one which is protected by copyright etc... and he is passing off as a genuine Gtec and not a copy of a Gtec then that is wrong. If theres no copyright in place to protect GrahamL I dont know what he can do about it? Someone here must have some legal knowledge regarding these issues, it would be interesting to know...

Re: Chip for 20vt #267312 03/01/2007 05:32 03/01/2007 05:32
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,831 Haslemere, Surrey M Mark_S Forum is my job
Mark_S Forum is my job M Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,831 Haslemere, Surrey	yes - you are right about the Gtec name, that is a different matter 997 C4S

Re: Chip for 20vt #267313 03/01/2007 07:10 03/01/2007 07:10
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: Pm sent iro chip GrahamL Thanks, i'll just reply now. At least this guy on ebay has made me realise I should list my chip as "Gtec" on there, I never did before 'cause I thought no one would know what that was.

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