thieves clone vuaxhall corsa's fgs
im betting that you will probably find out in a few weeks that you aint the registered owner of the car no more.
shakes head well i hope,really i do that it all turns out ok for you but i think its all a scam.why would they need to see your v5 in the first place?they never asked me for mine at a petrol station when paying for fuel with a fuel card registered to the vehicle.all smells a bit dodgy to me

I honestly don't know - I would guess that they have to register the car with the EU as part of the research and development project and therefore require the specifics~?

We will see - DVLA would not accept a photocopy anyway. I would be sent notification that I was no longer the registered keeper if it were possible - I would obviously put them right and know where to send them! Someone else could pick up my speeding points and fines!

well ive sold a few cars and ive never been notified that i arent the registered keeper or not ;)i would check your v5 document to make sure its the original and not a copy unless they only had it long enough to photocopy it.
i would have asked questions there and then as to why they needed your v5 document.like i say fella i hope it works out and is legit but you hear of stuff like this all the time going wrong and being run by crooks

When was the last time you sold a car beast? - I have received confirmation that I am no longer the registered keeper on the last two or three that I have sold.

They photocopied the V5 in front of me. I am really grateful for all of your concerns but I ain't sweating it, although I am not convinced that I will get cheap petrol!!

Ok I am a little pissed off today because I drove 50 miles to look at a car which was a total turd, the vin was screwed on with self tappers and rust and filler around the chassis number. I may have over reacted but if someone was criminally minded, the details on V5's *could* be useful., and it *may* be possibly to obtain an identical car, swap the details and *possible* claim a duplicate V5 then sell the car. In my opinion its not a document I would want a dubious company to have.

Sorry to hear about your wasted journey, really buggin!

I travelled 700 miles a few years back to see a "minter" of a 20vt, set out at 4am as well - Was crap,crap,crap - I walked away within minutes! Biggest waste ever but did convince me to up my game - Doubled my budget and travelled 900 miles for a real minter the next week!

Good luck with your search.

last sold a car about 18 months ago.
well if your not expecting it all to go smoothly at least you aint walking into it with your eyes closed and we are all only showing concern cos we dont want to see one of "ours" get stung

DVLA notifying for a year or so now.

Cheers mate

I think the whole thing sounds unlikely and I am as sceptical as the next man. However, I don't think scaremongering is necessary! In my opinion all Dougie stands to lose is his £100 but I support and admire him for giving this a go.

1. Which EU directives are they complying with by being non-profit? The free movement of goods and services applies to for-profit businesses as well.
2. Yes, but why fund it this way? Why not charge an extra 5p/litre, but sell to anybody?
3. It doesn't matter if the limit is people or vehicles, why have it at all? Do you really believe that there's a law that says they can only have 800,000 customers?
4. I still don't see the need for a limit, but I'll accept that it could be to aid customers.
5. This is rubbish. If they needed to register your vehicle for research purposes they'd simply note the reg. number. There's no need for them to have a copy of your V5 and it certainly wouldn't take them 28 days to record your participation.

It all sounds very, very fishy to me.

I'd still run it past trading standards..

"The ability to supply fuel at cost price is in terms of our membership of the European Community and the Research and Development project"

I assume that there are specific guidelines set out to monitor and control this; therefore membership control etc. & no profit - So can not charge what they want. I change my car regularly and keep the same plate, so reg. no. is not specific to a vehicle. How do you know how long the process to register will take? They may have to give details to various EU bodies and departments and await confirmation of vehicle (so that they are not just making up fake numbers!?).

Anyway I would guess that it is not an easy process or everyone would be doing it - I don't have the answers I am just the mug that stumped up the cash.

If you say it is all rubbish, then Oh well I fell for it!

You havent fell for anything yet, i would air on the side of cynicism but im happy to wait for the results of it, you could as easily be laughing about cheap fuel as being scammed out of £100

Your 28 days are up, Dougie - did it work?

It seems to be working here

http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=307832&page=1#Post307832

Yes and Yes I actually took out two memberships but shyed away from letting you know just in case I got doubly slated!

Filled up both cars tonight - 35p/litre and even got VAT receipts which I was not expecting. So 35p/litre inc. VAT.

Superb by the way - Brand new petrol station with new pumps, membership only so very quiet at present. Only 1 mile from me and mega cheap. I will not be holding back the horses now - 25mpg from the 220bhp 3.0 V6 but not such an issue now!

Whats the limit to what you can buy a week again?

Chuffed for ya mate!
Its nice to see someones getting decent fuel prices!

Cheers pfoe.

Kingpleb - 50 litres a week per car. I am therefore entitled to 100 litres a week - More than enough for me!

LPG seemed like too much of hassle and a long wait for return for me - This is perfect, see how long it lasts!!

Hopefully long enough for me to drive to scotland

pity its not more as i would travel up with some tanks if it were allowed to be taken all in one go

Not allowed to fill containers - Must go into vehicles tank!

yeah put into tank, drive down round, syphon into the cans and then drive back and fill the tank up again

Lol - somebody drive a petrol tanker up there

hmmm now that could be fun... and i know how to get hold of some 1000litre cubes if anyone can get them to let use have a load off them lol

This is great stuff, and a truly clever pyramid scheme! Wish I'd thought of it

If I'm reading this right:

- Someone inherited a few thousand litres of fuel as part of some deal. This fuel is duty paid and legal to sell.

- They make up a very clever story, sufficiently plausible that even Customs and Excise can't decide if it's legal or not. Anything involving 'EU' and free trade takes months to work out. The delay in working it out gives time for word to spread. The lack of a widely published explanation makes it slower for Customs and Excise to check it out, and makes it harder for them to know how many people are being conned, so they don't put priority on it.

- Whilst the investigation continues, they sell a load of fuel to the top level of a pyramid at 35p. They may even be making a loss on it.

- Those first people are so proud of their gamble they tell all their mates how smart they are. All those first people get a good saving.

- The time delay of 28 days allows word to spread widely.

- Setting an arbitrary limit of 800,000 gives people an incentive not to 'wait and see', quickly expanding the pyramid.

Next thing you know, the owners have earned £80m, sold a few thousand pounds of fuel, and the tanks run dry. If they haven't hit 800,000 subscribers yet, they could even buy full price fuel and sell at a loss for a while, since the subscriptions keep them solvent as long as the subscriptions keep growing.

Customs and Excise's lawyers prove after a month or two that it isn't legit, and cut off the supplies.

The pyramid collapses, but at £100 a car, it's not quite worthwhile for those who lose out to get the lawyers involved, so the owners walk away with a good few million profit. Also, as 'members', people aren't sure if they're liable for other peoples losses, so it gets messy.


Well done to anyone who got in at the beginning. If I were you, I'd just keep quiet and make the most of it. The longer the pyramid lasts, the more fuel you'll get out of it at a good price, and the less guilty you'll feel when it collapses !

No I think its more of a long firm , a pyramid scheme works by (for instance)recruiting commission passing up a chain with each person recruiting say 10 more people until no one else wants to join, then the pyramid collapses.

Ps I hope I am proved wrong and its all legit

lol. On a point of technicality, I think you're right

I must admit, I hadn't researched the difference !

I hope it is legit, and we all get a branch soon, but I doubt it. Given the write up of the scheme's owners, if they've stumbled on a tax loophole, I think it's more down to luck than good judgement !

Good luck