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turbo question
#295518
12/02/2007 03:50
12/02/2007 03:50
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a little broblem. turbo A : compressor A/R .70 and exhaust A/R .63 turbo B : compressor A/R .50 and exhaust A/R .70, but with douple in . so needs pulssive exhaust manifold ( no problem ) . now my question is : is it turbo A or turbo B, that spools quicker ? same size wings on both turbos .
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Re: turbo question
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#295522
12/02/2007 03:54
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smaller compressor housing the better the spool up.
Ross
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#295560
12/02/2007 04:19
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i would have thought the exhaust housing had more to do with spool up as thats what the exhaust gasses are spinning first whereas i would have thought the compressor housing affects how quick the boost builds ect
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#295563
12/02/2007 04:21
12/02/2007 04:21
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Its the compressor housing. Exhaust housing depends how much top end power you get. This is my understanding.
Ross
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#295565
12/02/2007 04:23
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what im trying to say is that for your compressor to work it needs to be driven by your exhaust turbine yeh?so if you have a large housing with a relatively small exhaust turbine there isnt going to be enough pressure to drive the exhaust turbine round and therfore turn the compressor wheel whereas you make the housing smaller to the size of the turbing and therefore more pressure of exhaust gas to drive both turbines
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#295568
12/02/2007 04:26
12/02/2007 04:26
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A : comp .70 exhaust .63 B : comp .50 exhaust .70, but with douple in. I think that B turbo spools quicker, there is little bigger exhaust side, but its with douple, so ... and comp. side is smaller...
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#295582
12/02/2007 04:32
12/02/2007 04:32
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whats double in?you mean a double or split pulse inlet?if so you cant really compare 2 turbos like that
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12/02/2007 04:38
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I mean these turbos are exactly the same, but : other has .50 comp side and .70 exhaust with splitted housing.. or something ( my english) so it needs pulssive exhaust manifold. theres gonna be new manifold, so thats not a broblem, I m just wondering is the A or the B better
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#295593
12/02/2007 04:40
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well i think B will spool quicker but wont produce as much power as A
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#295621
12/02/2007 05:06
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why.. ? same size wings and B has .70 exhaust side ( A .63 ) is it because of that compressor side ? B= .50 A= .70 ?
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#295626
12/02/2007 05:12
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Compressor side is the one to worry about.
Ross
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#295638
12/02/2007 05:22
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turbos have 56,5mm comp and 58,5mm exhaust .. good for over 400hp .. ?
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#295647
12/02/2007 05:26
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go to ray hall turbocharging and read about compressor flow maps and a/r ratings,easier than me trying to explain
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#295713
12/02/2007 07:21
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Flow maps mean jack dude. Sorry but it all depends on the car the flow graph/map was done on. For instance the gt28r is rated to 280bhp IIRC. Yet there is 10+ people on the forum who have higher than that with the same or lesser turbo.
Ross
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#295718
12/02/2007 08:04
12/02/2007 08:04
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thinking that turbo for my 16v turbo... and +400hp
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#295894
12/02/2007 19:47
12/02/2007 19:47
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there is another hmm lets call it turbo C ... it has 56mm exhaust .63 A/R and 58,1mm comp. .50 A/R is that too small for 400hp ?
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#295992
12/02/2007 22:21
12/02/2007 22:21
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flow maps mean alot!looking at a flow map can tell you how a turbo will work on your car but obviously you need to know certain things about your car like how much air it can get in ect
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12/02/2007 22:27
12/02/2007 22:27
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Re: turbo question
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#296002
12/02/2007 22:30
12/02/2007 22:30
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for 400BHP you could do with looking at the GT30 series turbo's
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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#296024
12/02/2007 23:00
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this turbos costs only 575e, so garrett would be at least double price ? they are master power turbos A= mp 802128 B= 810003 C = mp 810021
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#296131
13/02/2007 00:49
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Re: turbo question
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13/02/2007 00:49
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#296139
13/02/2007 00:55
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#296141
13/02/2007 00:56
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so the best one for good spooling and +400hp ? I'm gonna use different cams etc....
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Re: turbo question
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#296144
13/02/2007 01:06
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Begbie
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Hard to comment on spool up / suitable turbo as there doesnt seem to be any compressor maps to look at
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: turbo question
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#296171
13/02/2007 01:27
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You can't buy a turbo without look at the map first.
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#296267
13/02/2007 02:52
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You can't buy a turbo without look at the map first. then we cant buy these, because I havent seen any maps available ..
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#296275
13/02/2007 02:59
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Well that was kinda mine and Begbie's point you need a map in order to plot how it will perform otherwise your just guessing. The turbo is very important buy the wrong one and you'll forever regret it. If you ask me I would only buy genuine Garrett.
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#296285
13/02/2007 03:13
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#296286
13/02/2007 03:14
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