Dont think a coupe would make it to 100k being thrashed all the time!!

Ross

Green ones last a lot longer as well, even as carl says he never really breaks them

Like Father like son, now I know where you get it from!

My opinion, for what it’s worth, is that you can’t make sweeping generalisations about anything in life. You must always judge each case; or in this case, car, on it’s individual merits.

However, I think that if a car has only had a couple of previous owners, (enthusiasts, hopefully, who have looked after it), & has done lower than average (genuine) miles, then it is likely that it might just be a better buy than a car that has done a lot more miles, & has had many more previous owners, about whom you know nothing.

After all, it’s about how well the car has been looked after; & that’s not always an easy thing to determine. There’s always a risk when you buy a 2nd hand car.

Well I went to see a low mileage LE (something like 42k) on the clock and two owners.

OMG, the body was bad.

From a short distance it looked like a new car, on closer inspection very poor paintwork all over, badly filled dents and general paint build-up of thick paint where the body kit meets the body. Closer inspection and the o/s rear panel where the lights are was found to be made from fibreglass. It had a heafty shunt.

Rear arches were rusty, sanded down and painted over too.

The interior was genuine and showed the mileage of the car with hardly any wear although there were some nasty scratches in the trim.

Bloke was asking for a concourse car's money, which pi**ed me off as it was a long journey for me to view.

I haven't seen it for sale on here after I told him his car was part fibreglass.

Mileage means nothing IMO - To a point.

That wasnt a silver LE in the midlands area by any chance was it Jayzee ?

I would echo Nigels comments, my coop has done 111K on original clutch and turbo. Uses around 1L of oil per 1000 miles, little bit of smoke on startup but not once warmed. It is not thrashed though I do use the performance. I have replaced all the suspension, new discs all round twice and coming up for a third new set of discs, on second exhaust. replaced radiator, oil cooler and pipes but no engine issues at all, the only time I got worried it was only a poorly connected Bosch connector for the AFM.

Wouldn`t call that a weak engine and yes I change the oil every 6K and check it every week and always before and after a long run.

I bought the car on 60K at a good price with a full history and immediately spent 2k to get all the neccessary work done, belts, tensioners, manifold and some of whats listed above to make sure the car was fully fit. The price I paid reflected the work that needed to be done and I was far happier in the knowledge it had been done, not just told it had by a third party.

Roll on the next few years of ownership.

I do wonder how long the turbo will last. The clutch is being replaced in a couple of months, no slippage just getting heavy.

MrF

Oh yes and it has had 21 new tyres in its lifetime

I bought many a high mile car that was better than so called low mileage examples.

As for weak engines - well only engine I managed to blow was a skyline engine and that was meant to be strong and had 40k on clock

i blown R5 turbo engines, R5 Auto engines, R19n 16v engines....

the xantia ones are the only ones i havent killed properly. bar a fuelling issue i had with one which is slowly being sorted by its new owner

No, not silver. Can't say what colour it was can I?

I know the one you mean though. I didn't see that one but it looked mint.

hahahahaha really laughing at that.as i stated in my post even a fairly well known tuner agrees that the coupe has a weak engine and look at the amount of failiures that people have had with 20vt engine's,as a percentage its higher than most other cars that could be mentioned.
on the subject of posting complete and utter s**t and it becoming a bore just dont read what i post if you dont liek it,simple really

What percentage is it then? And what's the percentage of "most other cars that could be mentioned". Just so we can compare.

Rich. I thought u were above being an internet warrior dude. Please, for your sake, let this go and be the better person.

Ross

but falire does seem to mainly come along with turning.left pretty much standard with decent maintenace can be a lasting engine

Thats the key tuning - simple as - tuning to any extent will take something in the engine closer to a tolerance that is built into its engineering. Thus you have a higher risk of failure, look at any forum be it scoobs, skylines, RX8s or anything and find many owners doing many miles on standard cars.

Tuned cars on the other hand are a matter of finding the weakest link first. In the case of my skyline it was the turbo letting go and starving bottom end of engine.

From what I see Fiat engines suffer the same as any other turbo car - no worse no better...IMHO

I went to see a Plus just like this - 32k miles but quite possibly THE worst re-spray I've ever seen, runs on the wings & bumpers, over-spray all over the engine bay & under the headlight, erm, black bits you see from under the bonnet when it's open, etc, etc! The guy wouldn't let me drive it, said it had had its cambelt done but he had no receipts, point-blankly refused to agree it'd been re-sprayed and laughed when I said his asking price of £6,200 was a bit OTT...and in any case he had "loads" of people coming to look at it that weekend. On the Sunday evening he rang and offered it to me for £4,000. I still said "no".

internet warrior?dont quite understand that,people were commenting that it mileage doesnt always have an indication on car reliability ect and i commented from experience(i had an engine failure) and from being on the forum for about 5 years(therefore i have seen plenty of engine failure threads) that the coupe seems to have a weak engine.this was backed up when i talked to a coupe tuner about the coupe engine,im giving my oppinion which is what this forum is about,i aint saying it to cause a reaction as demostrated by jimbo who didnt agree with my comments-get a life its a discussion forum and i was discussing my views based on my experiences.
i may not have a coupe now but i did have one for about 2 years and in that time i did quite alot of things with my coupe,repair wise/tuning wise/maintainence wise so i do have some idea what im commenting on.
like i say if someone dont like my comments,theres an ignore user facility on the forum i suggest you use it rather than winging anymore

actually im getting an imminent ban because i answer mods back anyway so you may not have to ignore me anyway

When I bought my coop 3 years ago it was low mileage (38K). I had to spend the best part of 2K to get it up to standard because it wasn't used very often. New discs all round, seized calipers and various other things that get grumpy when their not used very often....

Sorry dude. Dont mean specifically about this thread. Just in general. Your a nice guy, but your letting things get to you and looking like a child whos had their first insult in public. Please chill dude.

Ross

i am chilled,when i log off here i dont give it a second thought but what does nark me a bit is im not allowed an oppinion or to insult anyone but as 3 of them have proved in the last week mods are.i dont like do as i say not as i do attitudes

i didnt mean you anyway ross,i have never had any problems with you,it was aimed at jimbo's rant at me