this is best place to get raggazzon exhausts from in the uk. Gazzella

I had one of these before but now have a powerfiat special purely because of price. I am very happy with it so far, just roam the streets looking for tunnels. Tip: if you're in london go on waterloo bridge coming north then right hand lane will take you to the kingsway/aldwych underpass tunnel <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

sorry to bump this up,
is the PF one quite loud <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> I don't want a loud exhaust <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> or one that drones (tbh I like the noise the car makes as standard) <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
also how many boxes do they have ? as i heard that 1 box systems drone a bit.

the ragazzon one looks nice, any pics of one fitted to a car ? only thing is they are 4" exit & i only really want 3.

Craig. They all drone at about 2K revs if they only have a single rear silencer. Thats why your OE exhaust has two silencers. If you want a drone free and standardish sound you need to go for the Miltek or CSC from Auto Integrale.

thanks for that, Miltek are loads of ££££££ though.
Ahh well I might just get one from PF, I just hope the droning isn't to loud.

Craig, talk to JamesH he has the PF one on his car, same car as yours too, he may be able to provide you with a pic and let you know if it does drone or not <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I have the PF one fitted and I'm very happy with it <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

It was very loud at first, I set car alarms off down my road which wasn't popular with my neighbour <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

After a month it had bedded in and is now just a nice burble at tickover, changing to a howl at higher revs.

As mentioned in other posts, it does drone a bit around 2k rpm but even this has lowered in volume and isn't obtrusive to my ears <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Here's a couple of photos:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/gringojimi/ex017.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/gringojimi/ex018.jpg

what about powerflow one, you can specify the loudness to a degree...the one ive got on my coupe seems to be a custom jobbie with a nice burble at tickover and in early gears but you cant hear it hardly when crusing on the motorway which is perfect for me, can comment on the price though as it was fitted when i bought the car

I've just had a PF cat-back fitted inn place of the standard exhaust - did notice it was a bit louder, but not excessively. Also, it doesn't seem to drone at all, so maybe I'm lucky!

How much did it set u back?

Peter,I have heard bad things about powerflow, I have heard that the pipes can rust even though its only been on the car for a year <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> (this is because the pipes aren't the same grade steel as the boxes)

Truffle-the cat back system sourced by PF is £220 (bargain) <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

JimO - cheers for that mate <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I just looked at Gringo's pics (he beat me to it, so I don't have to ask James)

The PF one is nice, but I want it to come out the back of the car & not the side, I know Rog is sorting out a slash cut exit one, so I might get one of those.
I'm glad that they settle down after a month, as I hate loud exhausts.

Gringo - did you notice any thing different when you had it fitted ?
was there smoother throttle response etc ?
how loud is it over the standard exhaust ?

Just to confuse you even more, I have a CSC system. Quite easy to fit, (getting the old rusty system off was a hassle).

Plus sides, sounds pretty standard, slightly deeper note, quiet inside the car, fit was pretty much perfect.

Downside, only one that I can think of the exit is at an angle like a lot of the aftermarket systems.

I used to have a Ragazzon system on my Punto GT, it was excellent, and would def recommend them, if the PGT was anything to go by. I'm even considering a spring time treat for the single outlet stainless system from Gazella/Ragazzon, if only to gain longer life, a little more noise, and a straight outlet on the system.

i too have heard mixed reviews about powerflow systems and it wouldnt have been my first choice if looking for an exhaust for the coupe because of this, however i cannot fault it at all! (......probably because i didnt pay for it haha!)

Craig,

Its prob only a few db louder than the standard one in normal driving conditions. Low revs and at idle it really picks out the 5 pot thrum of the engine, very nur quattro <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/love.gif" alt="" />

Higher rpm the note is much different to standard - I now hear exhaust rather than engine noise. Which is the only part I miss over the standard exhaust <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

In a nutshell, its not an overly loud system (compared to other aftermarket 20VT systems I've heard) and does make it sound more like a sports car. The price for the quality is excellent.

I suppose it may have improved throttle response a teeny bit. I think the turbo spools up slightly earlier, but it prob just 'feels' like it does <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Does anybody do a twin exit exhaust for a 20VT as in a single or twin pipe out each side. I know Powerflow will build one special to your own style but every one of theirs I have seen so far seems a bit Maxpower.

Phaeton, speak to Simon at Motorsportworld. He is the distributor for http://www.zaust.com/ and he had a twin outlet system fitted to his own Coupe which was up for sale I believe.

I will in the next couple of days cheers

Cheers for the reply Gringo.
I'm considering getting the PF spourced one, but in a slash cut exit.
The only thing thats wrong with my current standard exhaust is the back box (its almost knackered & has previously been strapped up) the pipes are fine.

Have anyone tried the Novitec exhaust ? Just got some prices on the catback from Novitec. 479 euros.

hey guys..
currently a stock 20vt coupe...with HKS BOV and
Apexi air-filter installed...
gona change the exhaust system next!
will be a straight flow exhaust system...
the question is, for a coupe of such settings, what is the best exhaust piping diameter should be? 2.5", 2.75" or 3"?

no intention of bringing it to above 300bhp...

Thanks and regards..

Just to check. Which exhaust is the one Rog does?

Rog sourced the PipeCraft exhaust

Thanks. Is it a good one?

I think so. But then I'm biased as I have one on mine <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Well made, good fit as it's bespoke and a good price.

any one got a pic of the slash cut exit PF one ?

I'm still un decided which exhaust to get <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> the back box is the only thing that knackered (so I could just buy a new back box) but I might as well get a cat back s/s one any way ! at least that way i know it won't rust.

Craig. I've the PF £220 stainless jobby with the rolled pipe. Looks pretty standard to me and it'll last forever

Here's a pic of my rear end <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c241/yellacoupe/DSCN0666.jpg
Go for it, Rog is only up the road from you!

I thought Rog does the pipercraft one. I'm so confused <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Yep. PF = Powerfiat = Rog. He supplies the Pipecraft one.

Ahh. I see. It was peter talking about PowerFlow systems that got me confused.

Is that £220 including fitting?

Yep. Fitted. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />