Hi all,

I'm b0b & am looking foward to picking up my new Coupe next weekend. I've got a few things planned for it, firstly a bioethanol conversion. As well as being cheaper than petrol, its carbon neutral (keeps the tree huggers happy) you get more bang-per-buck thanks to its higher octane rating (RON 104 compared to petrol's lowly 95; Super only gets you 98!) & this also makes for some intersting tuning options. See the following links for more info.

Full Flex Gold Bioethanol Conversion Kit

Green Car Site

What I need to know before I order the conversion kit is what type of injectors are fitted to the 1999 20VT? Apparently, the choices are EV-1, EV-6, NH-1, NipponDenzo, & Delphi. I haven't got the car yet as I mention so can't check.

Thanks y'all!

Where do you buy Bioethernol from, be care it could all end in tears!

Morrisons supermarket petrol station, Cardiff Bay, on my way home from work.

Shouldnt need anything to convert a coupe to be honest as it will make use of it when it slowly relearns the fuel. maybe reset your ecu by disconnecting it over night would help?

How much cheaper than petrol is it? Do you get similar mpg ?

85p per litre, 104ron... damn that's like race fuel for peanuts!!

Would you not need a live remap or unichip?

Also dont you need to replace some of the fuel line components? I thought this BioEthanol stuff was very corrosive.

Ben

It depends on the piping used to be honest but ive not heard of it eating anything??

You would need a live map to get the best from it in our cars but the major benefit for a standard coupe is that in summer the engine is a lot less likely to suffer det than running on normal unleaded which is more expensive and the money saved can be spent on mods or services

so this stuff will work? with no mods?

its cheaper and better!

what is everyone waiting for?

its only available in a very few stations about the place but some companies like BP mix it in with normal petrol in small amounts anyway i saw reported ages ago to help them look more green(upto 5% mix iirc) in their super unleaded to help boost the octane rating on the cheap and then charge more money for it but yeah stick it in and go!

my xantia TD loved having a good chunk of it thrown in with some veggie, 5 litres was about £3 when i did it down south last year

well im in cardiff and can use the same station as b0ba anyway
its sounds too good to be true tho!

surely there are side affects?

not really no otherwise they wouldnt sell it

When the higher ratios of ethanol come out then issues will pop up as per the leaded/unleaded issue but thats a way off just now

so i can fill up my coop and drive it as per normal and there shouldent be any side affects?

Something I've just picked up fom the web:

"The differences in fuel injector size, air-fuel ratio, PCM calibrations, material composition of the fuel lines, pumps and tanks are just a few of the components that contribute to making an E85 conversion extremely complex. It is our understanding that at least one company is working to obtain EPA certification. We will monitor the situation closely, understanding the certification process can be time consuming, difficult and expensive."
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Ok its from an American site, but still I hope you realise its not a simple case of filling up with it, and diving off.

To be honest i would think the coupes bits and bobs are upto the job as they have lasted a fair while and if anything you should really change your filter before doing it and then after another 1000miles of it as it will do what SVo does to diesels.... Cleans all the crud out of the fuel system

KP,

Yes they've lasted this long on Petrol, unfortunatly E85 is a different kettle of fish as its a lot more corrosive.

It's also worth remembering that this stuff has been around for 18 months, if it was as easy as filling up with it, dont you think all the Scoobys/Evos/etc would be using?

Cheers

Ben

hence why i was asking the question!

it sounds too good to be true imho there must be side affects and personally i dont want to be the one to find out as the fuel company wont pay for the damages!

To be honest if it were me id get my injectors checked out, service the car with all filters changed, fill the tank up and if i had mods then on the 3rd tank id go get her setup on the rollers before pushing the engine a bit if i had one near me id happily shove it in my tank