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Fitting Evo fmic help plse #422874
27/08/2007 22:15
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Hi all,

just after a little help with this one please.......my EVO (7 I think) original FMIC has been sitting on a cupboard for over a year now and I am finally getting round to fitting it :/, I didn't plan on Barbz leaving so now I have to try and fit it myslef (should have taken out some sort of loss of Barbz insurance :D).
Barbz kindly arranged for 3 metal pipes to be made up for me just before he left and has e-mailed me the list of Samco hoses I need (4 I think).......I will also need to cut off one of the 2 end pipes from the fmic and turn it to face he car.

Can somebody with a Barbz fitted Evo fmic plse advise what else I might need some pics of the fmic in place would be extremely helpful! \:\) And any advice about fitting is appreciate, is it a hard job?

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Re: Fitting Evo fmic help plse [Re: Coupe_Don] #423363
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Anyone with an Evo fmic able to give some input?


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Re: Fitting Evo fmic help plse [Re: Coupe_Don] #423370
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I've got some picture at home of my FMIC, I will post them up later tonight.

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have you got all the bits yet? I can try and explain with pics - but you could always pop over and see mine instead + number up the hoses and connectors you have from inlet to outlet? You'll need to mount the cooler like this (can be done easily with cable ties):

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/suba11/coopICinstal.jpg

Then hack the undertray to enable you to route the outlet (nearside) back on itself, and take a stanley knife to the inside of the bumper to get it back on when you're done. As long as you have all the right bits it should take a few hours.

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I would recommend a jig-saw for cutting the tray and (most of) the bumper, makes very light work of it - esp the undertray - but the fumes from the tray are quite evil - so take ensure decent ventilation.


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Re: Fitting Evo fmic help plse [Re: MCMike] #423431
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I love you guys ;\)
Thanks Nobby that would be great!

Suba it sounds like most of the work is down to cutting the bumper and undertray? Thank you for the offer I might just take you up on that, I have the metal pipe work (3 pieces) and the samco hoses should be with me soon. I have your number from around a year ago so not sure if its the same, i'll pm you when the samco hoses arrive, thanks! Oh is there anything else I need apart from the hoses and cable ties?

MCMike thanks for the advice, I fear my bumper may be a lil more troublesome its a 360 fibre glass jobby, i'll remember to watch out for the fumes when cutting the tray!

Cheers
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Re: Fitting Evo fmic help plse [Re: Coupe_Don] #423461
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surly cable tyes alone wont keep the intercooler of that size stable?? i have this intercooler in my cupbord too lol! mine a agnew digital 1 off e bay, im gonna get round to fitting mine soon this post has spurred me on now ;\) what pipes do i need? sorry to hijack your post john

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No problem mate, I have the part numbers for the samco hoses which i'll pm you along with a website you can order from.
Barbz got some metal pipes made up for me which I should be able to sort out and possibly send to you if you want as the company is local to me.

Cheers
John


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Well, Barbz used metal cables on his coop to hold the fmic to the frame, so I reckon its safe \:\)

I though the tricky bits with the evo were:

1) Welding the exit nozzle so that it points towards the intake - you would need a alu welder or might try doing something clever with epoxy (if you can tack together an airbus with it...)

2) Cutting the right-hand radiator support so that you can route the pipe out to the intake - would need a good bit of angle grinding I spose

Also I think if you angle the exit nozzle 45% upwards you can get it to run straight to the intake with no (or very shallow) bends - which would save a couple of right angles.

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Re: Fitting Evo fmic help plse [Re: ] #423553
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I didn't know anything about cutting any rad support???

I know you have to cut the exit nozzle and turn it to face inwards. Suba mate in the pic your exit nozzle on the right if your facing the car doesn't look like its been cut off and re-attached? Also did you have to cut any rad support?

Cheers
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Re: Fitting Evo fmic help plse [Re: Coupe_Don] #423555
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now im confused does anyone have a picture of this fully fitted without the bumper on?? john o ve just pm ed you let me know if you ve got it,any help would be great

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You should check, but the space between your radiator (assuming its standard) and the right hand support will not fit a 2.5'' pipe

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Thanks mark, I hope I don't have to cut any mounts, can anyone confirm this? Im not sure how the pipe work fits together yet so seeing an actual fmic fitted or some more pics would be great!

Cheers
John


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I depends on how wide your FMIC is, I didn't have to cut mine (although I have the slightly smaller 008C model - and IIRC suba has the 008)

Front
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The first 4 photos are from mburns120 ex coupe. The last one is of mine.

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Oh and here is the diagram of my parts needed to install my FMIC, I used all SAMCO hoses, but have since substituted lots of the straight bits for solid pipes (so they don't bulge ;\)

Nice little diagram

Chris

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lol - and a cc as well!

it looks like the exit pipe is going *under* the radiator support, is that right?

That would mean much less cutting but more convoluted path

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True to your word, thanks Nobby for posting those pics! As Barbz got those metal pipes made up for me before he left and has given me part numbers for the samco hoses I need im gonna follow his route, where it will take me I don't know! ;\) mines an orginal Evo fmic im sure the Anew ones are duplicates so probably the same size fingers crossed no cutting of rad mounts needed.

Nobby mate did you cut the nozzle on the right of your fmic and turn it 45degs to face the car? Thanks again.

Cheers
John


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No, i didn't cut anything on the FMIC. The entry/exit pipes are both straight out (slightly angled down).

Both entry and exit go under the radiator support bracket - so no cutting required, appart from some to the ducts for the oil cooler side. Other side duct was removed.

My FMIC is also a little lower. I had to move it a little lower to accomodate my chargecooler prerad. I also thought that there would be little point in getting it higher if its hidden behind the bumper anyway.

Has nobody notived the little fiat badge I sprayed on the FMIC... °\( \:D

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Thanks Nobby mate, I guess the pipe work im getting means that I have to cut my nozzle (ouch!) it must be a slightly different route to your pipe work.
Suba im guessing you didn't do any painful nozzle cutting either?

Cheers
John

PS
i'll look at the pics now for the Fiat badge! ;\)


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Has nobody notived the little fiat badge I sprayed on the FMIC...


Very nice

Maybe I should get 'MOVE' written on mine in reverse \:D


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 Originally Posted By: Nobby
I depends on how wide your FMIC is, I didn't have to cut mine (although I have the slightly smaller 008C model - and IIRC suba has the 008)

Front
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Mounts underneath
Front finished
My car front finished

The first 4 photos are from mburns120 ex coupe. The last one is of mine.


The model numbers are different - 008c and 008c1, but that's spot on - if you look back to my pic you can see where the rad supports had to be angle ground to fit the width of the bigger version - look for the black bar above the rad about 2 cms thick (square section) which extends along and then down either side - most ICs can fit inbetween the side sections - mine was too big. if you do have to do some grinding dont worry - it's a 10 second job as long as you have access to an angle grinder.

I did not have to alter the outlet in any way, and metal cable ties are fine to hold it in place - I was going to make up some proper brackets, but never had any bother with the ties so left it as it is.

And BTW my number is still the same. \:\)

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Nice job - what rad is that ? doesn't look like a standard one...


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Mine's standard???

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- what's that thing atop the I/C ? looks like a baby rad ?


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Its a prerad for the chargecooler

Look to the right on my car photo and I have another prerad - with fans..... super cool chargecooler.....

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Wow FMIC & chargecooler .....impressive


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would fitting this be majorly differnt to fitting a pace fmic which is on mine now??could i use some of the pipe work off that? and how to i mount the i c surely not zip tyes alone
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Thanks Suba, I guess my pipe work will be a bit different then as im taking the cutting nozzle of route (ouch!).
Can anyone explain any benefits of cutting of the nozzle and re-attaching it to face the car, does it enable a less restrictive route for boost?

Cheers
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 Originally Posted By: greencoop27
would fitting this be majorly differnt to fitting a pace fmic which is on mine now??could i use some of the pipe work off that? and how to i mount the i c surely not zip tyes alone
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Yes. I doubt it. Yes.

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You can easily buy some metal right angle lengths from hardware shops. It doesn't need to be ridiculously strong, just hold it in place.

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