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Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #437847
18/09/2007 17:44
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 Originally Posted By: h2ypr
U know my feelings on this dude. Doubt u will break it with proper mixture of fuel. \:D


Are you telling me to get it mapped Ross? ;\)

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #437866
18/09/2007 17:59
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greenstuff pads are only rated to 200bhp


Eh?

how can brake pads have anything to do with power?

How well a pad perfroms is down to caliper design, disc material, size and thickness and the weight of the car.


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Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: Nigel] #437888
18/09/2007 18:16
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green stuff is rated up to 200bhp.

iirc the reason for this is that it has something to do with the speed of the car e.g. a 300bhp car is faster than a 200bhp car so you need more braking force to stop the car , that’s way a fiesta 1.1 has tiny discs and a coop has 304mm by 28mm disks . It’s all to do with 1/2mv squared

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #437991
18/09/2007 20:05
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still mad though - a 200bhp Limo will take a LOT more stopping than a 200bhp Clio

If it was right, everyone would do it

I reckon its a simple (and probably effective) ploy to attract the chavs

"200bhp brake pads - innit"


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Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #438006
18/09/2007 20:21
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 Originally Posted By: Matty
 Originally Posted By: h2ypr
U know my feelings on this dude. Doubt u will break it with proper mixture of fuel. \:D


Are you telling me to get it mapped Ross? ;\)


Nope. Im telling you that with the correct afr (u were running too lean) that u will lose power, hence being further away from 350. \:D

Ross

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #438023
18/09/2007 20:33
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We'll see. ;\)

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #438196
19/09/2007 00:18
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but how quick is a 350bhp coupe, would it be rapid as feck

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #438212
19/09/2007 00:32
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Its ok. I dont get in mines (335bhp) and think "OMG this is amazin" but its quicker than stnd by a margin yes. Do i think its worth all the expense and worry? No. Buy a faster stnd car.

Ross

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #438249
19/09/2007 01:13
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 Originally Posted By: h2ypr
Do i think its worth all the expense and worry? No. Buy a faster stnd car.


Ahhhhhhhh you don't mean that Wossy.

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #438772
19/09/2007 21:02
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Be careful When I had my car mapped at perfect touch, they said anyone trying to squeeze more than 320lbs of torque from an engine with standard internals would be very sorry \:\(

Apparently, they have had a number of people who insisted that they squeeze out more power and torque but they have all ended up with spectacular failures. I saw the results, and it looked very nasty.

However, they have had a few monster coupes with masses of forged and balanced internals that have yielded spectacular results.

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #438796
19/09/2007 21:45
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Buy an Evo \:D







I'm going to die for saying that....

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #438809
19/09/2007 21:59
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You dead yet? \:D

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #438811
19/09/2007 22:02
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 Originally Posted By: h2ypr
Yeah but what about the 28r?? over 350bhp without mapped?

Ross


I'm sure you can do it - I'm 6 bhp short. I could get there with another 300 revs easy, and that's without porting the manifold or slapping in the cams I have sitting in the cupboard....

Maybe just a cold run.... \:D

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #438817
19/09/2007 22:08
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 Originally Posted By: kyle
i want around 350bhp and these are the mods so far

Mods

The mods on this car are as follows:

SS Peco Exhaust System
3G 20 Groove Discs on Front and Rear
Greenstuff pads all round
Koni SSK Suspension – Adjustable front and rear shocks + Springs
Gtech 1
Unichip
Apexi AVCR EBC
Forge DV006 Dump Valve
K and N 57i Induction Kit
Walbro 255 Up-rated Fuel Pump
Pro Alloy FMIC (from group buy).

The last rolling road was 264.3 bhp and 247lb/ft (safe with Unichip)

so whats next apart from a turbo and how quick is a 350bhp coupe


350 bhp = 3 inch exhuast with 5 stud adaptor from the turbo.
3.8 bar fuel regulator
GT28RS 0.86
voltage mod for the fuel pump
Straight induction pipe
Remap on V power
Paddle / organic clutch or walkers / gta combo if under 300 lbs ft

That's assuming your car's engine is tip top, compression tested etc. At that power level you are on the limit of the standard internals, and without cams or headwork you'll have to push the power by upping the boost - so dont save up just enough money for the mods and then have a pile of scrap you can't afford to fix when it goes pop.

You also have to hold the power down so decent withbones, engine mounts etc.

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #438825
19/09/2007 22:18
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 Originally Posted By: suba
 Originally Posted By: h2ypr
Yeah but what about the 28r?? over 350bhp without mapped?

Ross


I'm sure you can do it - I'm 6 bhp short. I could get there with another 300 revs easy, and that's without porting the manifold or slapping in the cams I have sitting in the cupboard....

Maybe just a cold run.... \:D


Thanks for the vote of confidence...... \:D

Once its through the mot etc, i'll get down the rollers.

Ross

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #438829
19/09/2007 22:24
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thanks suba thats all i wanted to know oh yeah and will the car be fast

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #438840
19/09/2007 22:34
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Define 'fast'. Then we'll tell you if it'll be fast.

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #438870
19/09/2007 23:18
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Put out a classified ad -
350BHP wanted. Must have GSOH

\:D


Former low boost hero - 616BHP@1.5 bar. 2.4 20VT RIP
Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: JohnS] #438884
19/09/2007 23:47
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as quick as evo mq320, m3 new shape , just what it will keep up with.

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #438895
20/09/2007 00:18
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Off the line - no chance. Traffic light GP's aren't the coupé's forté. Unless you have a paddle clutch and are willing to sit looking like a prat with your engine hovering around 4k at the lights. Even then the Evo and M3 will be ahead as they have more mechanical grip.

Rolling, (and dry) you should have enough pace to keep up with an Evo FQ320, M3 (maybe even the V8), Carrera 996/7's (not forced induction derivatives), Audi RS*...

Basically speaking 350bhp, low transmission losses and 1300kg is going to hold it's own against alot of cars.

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #438933
20/09/2007 01:33
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With 350bhp you could be harassing DB9s, Porsche 911 (all but the top turbos), Ferrari 355s and 360s, Maser 4200s, and all sorts of jap stuff


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Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: Nigel] #438973
20/09/2007 02:07
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sounds good to me the only thing is will have to keep spending out on repairs or are the engines still strong

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #439038
20/09/2007 03:33
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Engines are strong provided you've spent money on getting it mapped.

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #439046
20/09/2007 03:55
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 Originally Posted By: Kenno
Engines are strong provided you've spent money on getting it mapped.


Or u can check that its running correctly. \:D

Ross

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #439177
20/09/2007 14:06
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 Quote:
Or u can check that its running correctly.


yes, by getting it mapped

There's little chance that a 350bhp Coupe will be totally reliable without some car-specific fuelling adjustments

It will probably run OK, but there will be parts of the rev range where its not optimal


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Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: Nigel] #439182
20/09/2007 14:11
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 Originally Posted By: Nigel


It will probably run OK, but there will be parts of the rev range where its not optimal


I have to say, although your right, you have to reset your ecu every week, and for the money you've spent, i'll just stick to what i know. \:D

As for parts in the rev range that are not optimal.... i'd love to see someone with a PT map go for a rolling road elsewhere (if this has been done please tell me) and see if the fuelling is perfect...

Ross

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Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #439215
20/09/2007 14:42
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 Originally Posted By: kyle
as quick as evo mq320, m3 new shape , just what it will keep up with.


I've test driven an E46 M3 - my car on 1.1 bar felt noticeably quicker and more aggressive - though I have no side by side comparison. \:D

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #439216
20/09/2007 14:42
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PT fuelling is always on the rich side by the sounds of things. My car doesn't run as rich as any of the PT cars.

They probably don't just run it rich to get more advance but also for more safety as they do not know which compensations are being applied whilst they are mapping.

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: JohnS] #439223
20/09/2007 14:45
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My car mapped by them runs 11.5 - PTS mapped it at 11.9...

Re: 350bhp wanted [Re: ] #439228
20/09/2007 14:51
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Would you upgrade the injectors for 350...? eg. 16VT?

Suba & Nigel - you have Unichips?

Al

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