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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
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#438818
19/09/2007 22:08
19/09/2007 22:08
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Posts: 32,122 Cumbria
stan
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Dr. Frankenstan
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Sugar, the history, afaik, is missing from the forum member's car (I could be wrong, I often am, allegedly ![wink ;\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif) ) but as you say it maybe disappeared earlier in it's life to hide some several thousand miles of *going backwards* ![laugh \:D](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) Solstar I can't really say without seeing the cars whether they'd be any good, imagine what you'd think if I said *yes, definitely go for the yellow one* and it turned out to be fit for parts only ![frown \:\(](/forum/images/graemlins/default/frown.gif) You'd hate me...........although most motorists do anyway ![laugh \:D](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) check out the list of people willing to view cars and see if someone will help out with a viewing. Alternatively, and this is the best possible advice I could give to someone waiting for a decent coupé, wait until Carlt comes back from holiday next month and buy one of his. You will never regret it, ever! ![cool](/forum/images/graemlins/default/cool.gif)
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
[Re: stan]
#438835
19/09/2007 22:30
19/09/2007 22:30
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DidCoop
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DidCoop
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Do u really have to take the car to PowerFiat on every buy? Can't you just run through the buyers guide and surely make your own mind up?
I'm venturing 130 miles by train tommorrow to view the standard red 1 and it sounds quite good for a cheap car.
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
[Re: Rog20VT]
#438903
20/09/2007 00:25
20/09/2007 00:25
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DidCoop
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DidCoop
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The only thing is my options are limited and seeing a car with 1 owner, FSH and a full MoT does look promising...it cant hurt to go and look at it and if it goes through the buying guide properly surely it's a good buy at only £1500?
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
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#438910
20/09/2007 00:39
20/09/2007 00:39
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Vickster
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Vickster
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Of course go and look at it, but prepared for bills potentially...make sure you quiz the owner on oil - consumption, type, frequency of change etc...oil neglect is the biggest killer of turbo coops ![shocked \:o](/forum/images/graemlins/default/shocked.gif)
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
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#439048
20/09/2007 04:04
20/09/2007 04:04
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DidCoop
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DidCoop
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Yep I'm all prepared lol!
Got my pocket sized buying guide at the ready!
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
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#439050
20/09/2007 04:05
20/09/2007 04:05
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Vickster
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Vickster
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Just drive the bu*ger and if it seems good and it all stacks up, buy it once you've HPI'd ![wink ;\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif)
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
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#439057
20/09/2007 04:19
20/09/2007 04:19
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DidCoop
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DidCoop
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How can I HPI on the scene?
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
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#439064
20/09/2007 04:40
20/09/2007 04:40
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azreal13
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azreal13
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You can get your HPI Check by phone for £19.99. Call 0845 300 8905, 8am-8pm Monday to Friday, 8am-5pm on Saturday, 10am-5pm Sunday and Bank Holidays.
Lifted straight from the site mate, and also, if you'd like some extra advice, exercise caution when viewing these cars - it would be very easy to buy a dog on your budget. But, for someone who doesn't know or appreciate the car, it would be easy to undervalue it, so bargains may be out there. Undervalued cars are often unappreciated tho, so make sure the receipts are there.
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
[Re: sugerbear]
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20/09/2007 04:47
20/09/2007 04:47
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Solstar
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Solstar
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Sugerbear
going on your last comment do you know for sure that the car has been clocked? or Are you saying that this would be the most logical reason for missing history? Oh and which cope are you refering to?
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
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#439122
20/09/2007 12:40
20/09/2007 12:40
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Vickster
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Vickster
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There are LOTS of clocked coupes out there according to Carlt ... he used to sell lots of low mile clock sets too, doesn't anymore ![wink ;\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif) A lost history is the ideal way to hide the clocking of a car!
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
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#439227
20/09/2007 14:49
20/09/2007 14:49
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shabba
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shabba
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Do u really have to take the car to PowerFiat on every buy? Can't you just run through the buyers guide and surely make your own mind up?
I'm venturing 130 miles by train tommorrow to view the standard red 1 and it sounds quite good for a cheap car. I dont buy 1 a month and as this is alot of money for anyone really its worth £50 max for a health check from someone who knows exactly what they are doing. The experts work on these cars every day and know them better than anyone. Its good peace of mind to know the car has been checked over by them. Somethings on my car could have caused major issues if Rog hadnt flagged them up for me early.
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
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#439245
20/09/2007 15:24
20/09/2007 15:24
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Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,704 Harpenden
sugerbear
Je suis un Coupé
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Je suis un Coupé
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Sugerbear
going on your last comment do you know for sure that the car has been clocked? or Are you saying that this would be the most logical reason for missing history? Oh and which cope are you refering to? I wasn't referring to any coupe in particular. Certainly not the one for sale, you need to ring and ask lots of questions. Dodgy traders have been clocking cars and pulling in low mileage punters for years. There is nothing wrong with a high mileage coupe so even if a 100,000+ mileage coupe has been clocked back to 50,000 it should be fine as long at its been looked after, just you will pay more for the disappearing miles !! high/low mileage alone is not a good indication of the condition of the car.
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
[Re: sugerbear]
#439277
20/09/2007 16:12
20/09/2007 16:12
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shabba
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shabba
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Yeah, remember loads of parts need changing between 70 & 90k, so a 70k car might need a new turbo, clutch, rad, manifold, wishbones, suspension etc. However a 100k car might have recently had all that stuff done etc. Go by condition and history.
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
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#439435
20/09/2007 19:27
20/09/2007 19:27
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shabba
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shabba
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You really need to question the owners on all those cars, usual questions. Then judge which seems best from the answers.
All we can do is tell you want questions to ask, and that might be like teaching you to suck eggs.
I mean what can we tell from pics & a bit of info??
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
[Re: sugerbear]
#439506
20/09/2007 20:46
20/09/2007 20:46
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Solstar
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Solstar
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Some Advice Please...
What do you guys think of a Coupe 20vt that's done 104k miles, 2 owners from new with Full Fiat Service history, but has had a replacement engine fitted by a Fiat Specialist that's done 34k at a cost of £4k? What are the draw backs if any with a replacement engine on these cars? Oh by the way the cost of the car is £2795 via a tarder!
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
[Re: sugerbear]
#439565
20/09/2007 21:29
20/09/2007 21:29
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Solstar
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Solstar
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Suerbear,
Cheers, the add said "Fiat Service History" So if the seller can give me the name of the garage that did the work I can call and check the details of work carried out... good thinking I'll try thet rout first!
Ta
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
[Re: stan]
#439602
20/09/2007 21:50
20/09/2007 21:50
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Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,704 Harpenden
sugerbear
Je suis un Coupé
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Je suis un Coupé
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Harpenden
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That first one at County Liquidations looks like a plus or a vt6 to me..........at just over £3k ![shocked \:o](/forum/images/graemlins/default/shocked.gif) Can't be right can it? Moon grey 6 vt. Lovely. I would go and take a look, but I think there is some auction type thing going on with that site (does not make it very clear), you cant test drive them until after you have bought them as well. is it me or does that bonnet seem a little high ?
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
[Re: sugerbear]
#439647
20/09/2007 22:49
20/09/2007 22:49
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sumplug
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sumplug
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As Carlt will tell you, all the problem Coupes are low mileage. High mileage ones with specialist history are the ones to go for. Andy. ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
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#439656
20/09/2007 22:57
20/09/2007 22:57
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racyraz
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racyraz
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As Carlt will tell you, all the problem Coupes are low mileage. High mileage ones with specialist history are the ones to go for. Andy. I have a low mileage coupe,no problems with mine! Isn't it,how you look after them? ![smile \:\)](/forum/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
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#439661
20/09/2007 23:02
20/09/2007 23:02
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Solstar
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Solstar
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From what I can tell there is no hard and fast rule about judging a car on just it's mileage, however if a car has done 104k and then has an engine replaced to one that has done 34k what factors neeed to be considered, if any? Also any ideas/ thoughts on how this may affect the future residual value of the car?
One last thing on the cars I have listed above, which cars would you guys arrange to see based on the information given in each add? (ie: which should I shortlist and which should I get rid of) I'd love to view all of them but unfortunately time is of the esscence. Oh I think the 1st one is an auction, so I will be striking that one off the list!
Last edited by Solstar; 20/09/2007 23:19.
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
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#439674
20/09/2007 23:22
20/09/2007 23:22
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Vickster
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Vickster
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As Carlt will tell you, all the problem Coupes are low mileage. High mileage ones with specialist history are the ones to go for. Andy. I have a low mileage coupe,no problems with mine! Isn't it,how you look after them? You sure it's not a clocked high miler ![tongue \:P](/forum/images/graemlins/default/tongue.gif)
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
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#439676
20/09/2007 23:25
20/09/2007 23:25
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Skint
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Skint
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If you want a porto coop then whats wrong with ruspers? Other than that i'd call on the moon vt [6] make sure it has documents history you know the score or a non turbo then damiens on here which i think is on one of the ebay ads.
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
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#439677
20/09/2007 23:25
20/09/2007 23:25
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Solstar
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Solstar
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Well I'm not sure that I'll ever be 100% sure, but I called the seller and he will dig out the paper work so he can give me the details of the garage that carried out the work. I should have the info later so will call them tomorrow to make sure, apart from that is there any more I can do to be sure??? I am considering getting an AA or RAC technician out to look at the car before I dive in, any comments on this, has any one ever used the AA or RAC to view one of these coupes in the past?
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Re: Want a Coupe...not sure on value on these cars
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#439678
20/09/2007 23:27
20/09/2007 23:27
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Solstar
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Solstar
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Skint...
Is ruspers coupe is it on this forum? oh and it would have to be a turbo, I know one of the links I listed above is for a none turbo, but I realised after!!! oooops....
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