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PT tomorrow. #464710
23/10/2007 00:34
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So tomorrow is the day I will be able to try out my new mods. It's been sooo painful not being able to overtake people doing 40 in 60 limits. \:\(

Here's my list of goodies;
GT28RS
BlueFlame full system incl. race cat
Blitz ID3 (Rog said map it on a high setting of 1.4bar)
PA FMIC
Walbro 255 fuel pump
K&N 57i
Forge 006 DV
Helix clutch

The coupé has just had a service and everything looked good, compression of 151-150-151-149-151 and my manifold was o.k. \:o

I'm more interested in a good reliable coupé than an all out BIG bhp brawler so have been told to ask for it to be taken 3 degrees back from detonation. ;\) Is there anything else I need to ask. Rog said they will set up my Blitz, would this include the in gear settings?

So with all that in mind and everything going well tomorrow what sort of results should I see? \:\)

Oh yes and is there anything to do at or around PT while I wait?

Cheers, Chris. \:\)

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: OO7] #464739
23/10/2007 00:59
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I can see 300+ bhp coming from those goodies \:#

Jamiepm has an almost identical set-up to yours and his is 330bhp \:\)

Good luck!

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: Paul_V] #464809
23/10/2007 02:13
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Thanks. \:\)

330bhp (50% more power) would be great, any idea on what torque that had and specifically what mods. I did try a search but I couldn't find a post from Jamiepm saying what he has (nodetails in the hall of fame).

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: OO7] #464810
23/10/2007 02:16
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i would say your setup is very similar to busa's, except you have a cat and i think kev has a 3 inch downpipe. his is 330bhp!

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: ] #464821
23/10/2007 02:23
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Waiting on BlueFlame for a 3" DP and that will have to go on after the map (I've been told that won't affect the map?). Other than that they do look very similar, thanks.

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: OO7] #464855
23/10/2007 02:55
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I think 330bhp is an attainable figure. I'm off work 2moz dude. I'll drop ya a pm laters.

Ross

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: OO7] #464862
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I'm sure his car is in the hall of fame list.

Not sure of his torque but his full spec is as follows.

Gtec2,GT28R,fmic,dv006,sip,ported manifold,walbro255,jamieflow3"exhaust,,de-cat,avcr.
His top setting is 1.5 bar boost i think!

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: Paul_V] #464885
23/10/2007 03:23
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3 degrees back from det.. It'll be interesting to see how much difference that'll make. Depending on what fuel you're using, i'd say 310bhp \:\)

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: ] #464907
23/10/2007 03:35
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Waiting on BlueFlame for a 3" DP and that will have to go on after the map (I've been told that won't affect the map?).


It will, but only margainly. Having the bigger downpipe will allow the exhaust gases to escape quicker and build up boost soonier, so you maybe a little more lean before full boost, but otherwise, i can't see the top end being affected


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Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: Begbie] #464929
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Cheers guys.

@Kenno- V-power.

Begbie would it be worth me telling them that so that they can add a little more fuel tomorrow to compensate for the difference when the DP is fitted. Or I was thinking about head work late next year, maybe it might be better to keep the DP off and fit it with the new head then get a re-map?

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: OO7] #464932
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if you start going much further past your current setup you will have to start thinking about going forged. it isn't cheap as i am finding out at the moment \:\(

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: ] #464942
23/10/2007 04:07
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I did talk to Rog about the forge stuff when I got that little lot fitted and you're right it's not cheap. I don't really want to go that far and I did think what I have now plus the S3 head would be the SAFE limit on std internals, do you think the head would be a step to far?

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: OO7] #464948
23/10/2007 04:13
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If you don't have to pull the engine apart leave it as is. I wouldn't even bother with the other DP to be honest.

I would take a bigger FPR though incase the fuel pump can't provide enough fuel.

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: ] #464956
23/10/2007 04:24
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That's what PF said about the forge stuff too. ;\)

Rog tested the FP and said there was more than enough power (or what ever it is he measured) going through it, at 13.8, without the wiring mod and FPR. I also asked PT if they thought I should bring a FPR and they said not to bother. It would have been nice to have one just in case but at £80 for something to pros have said I don't need I didn't bother.

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: OO7] #464961
23/10/2007 04:29
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He was just checking the voltage didn't drop off the pump under load. As for the FPR, you're going to be limited by the amount of fuel you can get in but if they're winding the ignition back anyhow, as they say, you probably won't need it.

Good luck.. \:\)

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: ] #464964
23/10/2007 04:35
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I hope they don't need it. I would have thought they must have FPRs in stock just in case anyhow. I'm starting to get a bit nervous now. \:\(

Cheers. \:\)

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: ] #464965
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Good Luck for tomorrow Chris - this has been a long time in the making.

Hope you get what you're looking for. \:\)

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: ] #464973
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Good luck tomorro fella
Be good to see ya results as i'll soon be running similar set-up

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: ] #464974
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LOL. The FMIC did spend about 14 months in the cupboard.

Cheers Craig. \:\)

Re: PT tomorrow. [Re: OO7] #465469
23/10/2007 22:55
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well how did it go?

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: OO7] #465488
23/10/2007 23:20
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Everything went very well. \:D I turned up on time, although I couldn't find any V-Power pumps on the way up but PT sorted that out. \:#

I explained what I wanted to Rob and that safety was very important. Rob was very helpful and went through my car thoroughly before starting any work. ;\)

I left PT with 324.2bhp at 6,555rpm and 301.6lbft at 4,906rpm and a bloody big smile. \:D This was with 1.38bar which was on full song by 3,150rpm.

All in all I'm VERY happy. \:# Yes it does cost a lot but that should be the last engine mod I do now (under the advise of Rog, Rob and the missus ) and it will be worth every penny if I don't have any fueling issues.

Thanks for everyones help and advice over the last 2 years, this is the result of that help. \:# NEXT YEAR BRAKES AND SUSPENSION but she doesn't know that. \:P

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: OO7] #465496
23/10/2007 23:26
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very nice results

how much did it cost all together for the live map?

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Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #465497
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Looking good dude. You happy?

I'd say from the graph, your on song at 3500-3700rpm. Just about right for that turbo. Did they map it to 99ron?

Why did they map it to 1.38 bar?

Ross

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #465509
23/10/2007 23:34
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Curves still don't cross at 5250rpm and it looks like your spool up is no slower than joels ultraspool. In interesting one for the 'a GT28RS is too laggy' crew to figure out. ;\)

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #465510
23/10/2007 23:36
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It was £528.75 incl VAT. \:\)

According to the Blitz it's on at 3150rpm and I think Rob might be on later to confirm this as I thought there might be a little doubt . ;\) Rog also had a little drive today.

Yes it was mapped on 99ron and it was going to be mapped at 1.35bar but Rob got the torque over the 300 mark by adding .3bar. I think that's why anyway.

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #465516
23/10/2007 23:40
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 Originally Posted By: Kenno
Curves still don't cross at 5250rpm and it looks like your spool up is no slower than joels ultraspool. In interesting one for the 'a GT28RS is too laggy' crew to figure out. ;\)


if you look ken, at 5250rpm both the torque and bhp are at 290. its just they are on differnt scales.

not a bad price, don't know whether to go perfect touch to get my car live mapped or just tweak the unichip \:\?

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: OO7] #465517
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It might be on full boost, but from the graph it shows where the torque starts to build. When it flats out, thats when your on song.

I think 007's spool up is the same as others have experienced with that turbo. Joel's however, is unique, and is later than barbz and others thought (including myself).

Ross

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Good results chris
bet ya all smiles now

Re: PT tomorrow. ~RESULTS~ [Re: ] #465532
23/10/2007 23:49
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 Originally Posted By: cheesy
Good results chris
bet ya all smiles now


I was just saying I've been up now for 30+hours (night shift last night) so I haven't really had the confidence in my attention to have a real go yet. BUT I have filled her up with lovely V-Power ready to test her tomorrow. ;\)

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Ahh.. school boy error.. Well spotted eldinho. \:\)

Damn different scale nonsense!!

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