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Re: Lag + Power Vs Spool up, Less power [Re: ] #470211
30/10/2007 15:05
30/10/2007 15:05

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Originally Posted by paulr20vt
but would probably get the rs over the rsr if i was buying new again


Swapsies? laugh

Re: Lag + Power Vs Spool up, Less power [Re: ] #470231
30/10/2007 15:41
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Originally Posted by Per
I'm heading for the GT28R (god send me the money please!).
What's the max power anyone measured with this turbo? And what was the mods?


On a standard engine you'll make around 300 bhp. With headwork, cams, and decent mapping, with 3 inch exhaust, fmic, etc. 350 is possible. An RS with a 0.64 housing does not spool much later and is a lot more easy to extract the power from....

Re: Lag + Power Vs Spool up, Less power [Re: ] #470477
30/10/2007 19:59
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I'm putting together an excel spreadsheet that will show the following characteristics of the different turbos available to the coop 20vT. The list is the one supplied by Johns a while back listed in order of spool-up.

The turbos featured are as follows;
T28 Superspool hybrid
T28 Std turbo
T28 hybrid
T28 GTiR hybrid
GT28 0.64
GT28R 0.64
GT28RS/R hybrid 0.64
GT2860RS 0.64
GT28RS/R hybrid 0.86
GT28/32 hybrid 0.64
GT30/25 hybrid 0.64
GT2860RS 0.86
GT2871R 0.64
GT3071R 0.64
GT2871R 0.86
GT3076R 0.64
GT3071R 0.86
GT3076R 0.86
GT30/35 hybrid 0.86

Where does the new(er) 'Ultraspool' fit in?

Johns also supplied the max power made on each of these turbo (at the time). I 'think' it was irrespective of headwork and so maybe corrupt for purely comparative purposes. Maybe the best way to do it would be to collect data for cars that don't have any headwork first (also only 2.0 engines), then collect those that do and see if what difference they make. I tend to think the bigger turbos would benefit more from headwork, but it may simply be a % increase in power/torque and a fixed reduction in spool-up rpm? Of course the 2.4/2.5 jobs are another factor to be considered.

I intend to add these other 'attributes' along the top of the database:
Max Power rpm
Max Torque
Max Torque rpm
Boost Threshold rpm (spool up rpm)
Boost Trails off rpm
Torque Range
Redline Boost

A new thread would probably be the best place to put this info so could anyone with any of those 'attributes' above please post them up on a new thread along with a 'rough' list of engines mods.

Something like this could answer a lot of recent questions about which turbo to chose.

Cheers smile


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Re: Lag + Power Vs Spool up, Less power [Re: Trappy] #470480
30/10/2007 20:02
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I've just remembered Johns' post about different spool rpm in different gears. Go by 4th gear as most people will have used this on dyno runs that show boost on the graph. Of course everyone else could just use 4th gear on the road.


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