Hello all!

Finally a bit of good news on the LED rear light front.

The lights i have managed to find are THESE

They have a normal brake light/indicators etc with LED sidelights.

They should fit quite nicely into the 'buckets' into which the normal coupe lights sit with a bit of fettling.

I havent discussed discounted prices with the supplier yet until i have a good idea how many people would be interested.

Hope thats cleared some stuff up

Phill

---Update to the update---

Im still waiting on the exact composition of the lights i.e are the fogs and indicators in the same unit etc.

Ill post up info as i get it

ooohhh! they look a little 'ferrari'

http://www.strangevehicles.com/images/content/105742.jpg

i shall be keeping an eye on this thread

I would be interested in a set if they don't cost the earth

I may have to subsidise your set ...

Ross

I might be interested, if the price is low enough.

Ok I thought it would be the clear/smoked type. No thanks from me!

Why dont you make them smoked yourself?

Ross

Under Phil's supervsion, im helping at looking at various options. After some extensive searching there is a few different options and we are weighing up cost and availability. Im looking down one option (i think the prefered option) and phil is looking at the alternatives

Ross

well if it helps this guy said he would do a deal for a g.b at about 140 a set.
http://cgi.ebay.de/Fiat-Coupe-LED-Rueckl...1QQcmdZViewItem

got my attention

I prefer the configuration where all 4 rings are lit for tail lights, and they all just go brighter for brake lights. Any chance?

We are looking at a different design. The centre section of that LED kit is normal bulbs. Only the sidelights are led's i believe. Im waiting on a price back from suppliers, and also asking for a custom design. Im a fussy bugger and want something special and better than the stnd leds.

Ross

I've seen these light on a coop at a meet and before then i liked them, but seeing them in the flesh put me off.

i am interested in the red and clear ones in the first post, the otherone (the more common ones) dont look factory enough for me red ones are subtle. Even if there is no revers e or fog i will still be intereted, can always rig something else up for that i am sure

Paul R

There is some ideas for running the first post LED's but want to persue other ideas first, because of the fog/reverse issue.

Ross

im in a similar boat as mattW, if at all possible, also, personally i'd quite like something where you cant see the leds untill they are lit up, somrthing that could look almost OE if you get me

I do like these. Anyone got these? Looks like there might be some wiring to be done, no?

Looks very intersting....

Been in contact with my supplier. Have to contact america to see about custom design.

Ross

Been in contact with my supplier also, he's trying to arrange a viable solution for the £150 mark.

Me and Ross are also heading down another route with a guy who is able to custom build LED lights and produce enough to keep us all happy

Phill

£150 or less and I'd also be interested.

Are these any good?
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/ProductDetail.asp?cls=ROAD&pcode=HEL134-007

Those have been mentioned many a time. the main problem is cost with them.

How do THESE take everyones fancy?

Im trying to asscertain what functions they come with but they certainly sound like i will be able to get them in budget.

Phill

If thats what you want, then do what I did and buy some of these to just simply replace your halogen brake light bulbs. They're nice and bright and work really well. I bought the red one's.

You'll still be left with standard halogen for your indicators though, unless you wire in a resistor to stop the LED bulbs from flashing too fast.

Yup, supsidising my set would be nice

Whereabouts in America is the company based? I'm working over here for the foreseable future so if its nearby i could even go speak with them for everyone.

Thanks for the offer dude.

I doubt we will go with the american company, as a custom led lights guy in the uk is prepared to match the design. Once we have a few rough prices, i'll show the design and we can take it from there.

Ross

The very top set look pretty nice, - with the red outside ring - the most subtle and factory.

I think as you get shinier (is that a word?) then they start to look a bit Clio Lexus Lightish. NED mobile in otherwords

Thats just my opinion

If the finished design is of the 'shinier' variety then we should maybe think about having the 'shinier' bit smoked because it might look a bit saxo-chav-tastic which really isn't good on a coop!

It wont be chav tastic. Dont think neither myself or phil would allow that.

There is several options.

1. The normal ones that everyone associates LED lights with.
2. The set that pfoe can supply, which are slightly different from the ones shown, but very nice.
3. A custom made set from a led light specialist, which will be made to our specs.

Ross

cheers dennisK, but what i meant by OE, was like a mini version of the skyline r33 rear lights so they still have the round circle (afterburner???) effect, but dont look like i ram raided halfords!,

as you can see, im not too fussy!!

i agree but looking at the first set that do look very oe i think that our cups are too small for it to look good if you know wot i mean

the first set are still my favourites personnally. closest to oe

???

Think u'd need a set as /\ because clear for indicators and for reversing light

13ad13oy, that looks really good

Thanks, was feeling unusually in the mood for Photoshop this morning.

Usually can't be bothered

Cant view that at work. Anyone upload to some other fileshare and re-link for me?

Ross

Look very nice. Nice photoshop.

i would be interested in a set like what 13ad13oy has done. or even all red and have coloured leds...is that possible? i know alot of new cars have all red rears and they still light up orange.

Paul R

Have a look at my first post. I think the ones Badboy has done are based on those. So yes, they are do-able.

So is there any point in me speaking to the custom light boy?

Ross

Very nice

but i'll go with what ya thinks best

i`d pay £150 for a set like this too

@ross... personnally i am not totally sold on them so i would be happy to see other options.

Right, to clear a few things up.

The version that have been photoshopped do not have fog/reverse lights.

The light with the indicator in only has a reflector around the outside.
This leaves one lamp with One ring of LEDS.

They do look rather nice Photoshopped on there however i am still going to pursue my other route as that hardly seems like the best value for money.

Phill

Cool

I'll phone that custom light guy 2moz and see what we can arrange.

Ross

No offense, but they look kak. Im not wanting to pay £150 for something to look slightly better than standard.

Ross

LOL

I quite liked the "a little better than standard" kind of subtle look which was what I was aiming for



I used the ones in your first post to photoshop, I assumed that the red ring could be dual filiment style so you'd have 4 rings always on, which got brighter as you braked, the top 2 clear - indicators, bottom clear - one fog (obviously with a red bulb) and one reverse.

Thats exactly what I'd want to see. Find something like that it would be perfect.

Why aim low??

Personally i think the coupe lights look at tad silly with a reverse on one side and a fog on another. Why not a reverse and fog on each side.

Here is the idea im working with.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/h2ypr/rearledidea.jpg

Ross

Hmmm.

I did have another wee addition to my pic up there but I couldn't find the correct pic on the net to steal the part from. Will try and go looking with my camera when I get a chance and take some snaps

Whats the hmmm for?

I want opinions on the lights i have posted, because if no0one likes them i dont wanna waste my time getting a price and design from the bloke.

Ross

Ross,I like most of the ideas on here,but the led rings ,twin reverse and fogs would be my preferred choice.In your drawing,are there rings on?cheers Paul.

In my drawing its individual LED's. I suppose i could arrange for Rings, with the reverse and fog in a similar design. My laptop is away for repair at the moment, so dont have coral draw. But indicators on top 2, reverse and fog on bottom 2 and 4 ring leds for brake and tail?

Ross

TBH, I don't think they'll look right, maybe?

I don't see the problem with having only one fog and one reversing light for 3 reasons:
- They're hardly going to look silly - How often are they actually on?
- Thats what is standard...
- Wiring them will be much simpler as thats where standard loom is

My other Idea was to supplement my photo shoped Coup with Subaru Legacy Wagon rear lights that come from the boot lid - they would fit where the reflectors in the bumper are (*I think). Alternativly you could get the LED Lad to make up a light like [Fog/Reverse] [R*** TER] [Reverse\Fog] to fit where the reflectors go?

I've seen this set up before somewhere. Having fogs behind half the portion of the rear reflectors. And then having the symmetry with the reverse lamps on both side, with the normal lights.

That said, it seemed a lot of work just to gain symmetry, when occasionally you need your fogs on, or you're reversing....

Well ive just heard from the guy im chasing and we're working towards a solution that hopefully should regain some element of symmetry and still have all of the lights in the existing units.

Must say its sounding very promising

Phill

Agreed, So I'd be happy with the photoshop

Is your car out of the body shop yet ?

i like the OE look personally, horses for courses and all that so id be interested in the ones like 13ad13oy's photoshop

maybe we need to put all the ideas next to each other and create a poll?

I could photo shop a few more for comparison if you like but prob not till 2morrow

Feel free to create a poll, though the whole aim of this voyage into the LED light world i set about was to find a set of affordable LED lights for us coop owners, which as yet noone seems to have done.

The first set are cheap(ish) and look OE but not without their flaws.

The second set look a bit chav but they are all LED, meet all the criteria and are affordable.

The third set that im working on seem to tick all the boxes.

Not being funny but myself and Ross have put a lot of effort into this for the forum and if anyone can find them cheaper or a set that matches everyones ideals id be suprised.

Phill, I think you've done an amazing amount of work and I've been fortunate to see the design that you came up with and the effort that has gone into it.

I think it's one of those things where you will never please all the people all the time so you need to decide what is the best solution for you.

Personally, I loved your own design but apart from the first set shown above there aren't any others that appeal.

Keep up the hard work.

Sorry I was in no way trying to take over or do anthing like that, I'm too really impressed with the work you have put in and I'm keen to follow the progress. - Just wanted to help with a wee photoshop, mainly because I had a bit of free time on sunday

I'm really sorry if its seemed any other way

BB, I think your photoshop was excellent!

In fact I'd go further and suggest that any design should be photoshopped so that potential buyers can see what the lights are going to look like when fitted (if it's at all possible?).

Nah its cool, its just hard work trying to keep everyone happy with the design!

The current plan is as soon as i get a design (or 2) sorted that i think look great i will post them up and based on price and looks i'll start a poll for which group buy to start.

Seconded, it actually looked real, and if nothing else got me thinking how much i want some new lights

lol, i had to look twice before i realised it was a photoshop!
(the shadow of the real rear lights gave it away )

Phil,

Looks like good work on your part there matey

I Must admit, I went for the Coupedeteile versions, which are similar in that the units are modular & you can swap the centres etc....

One word of caution I would say to the fellow coop owners is that what looks good on one coop may "not" look as good on another, personally, the all clear type suit the silver / darker models, whereas the red inserts suit well....some other colour ! ( hell, as If I know about fashion ! )

may be worth showing some others when you get them fitted to your car what they may look like on another coop ( this is a point where another forum member who is good at photoshop HELPS YOU )

for the record, here is my coop with the clear rear jobbies & this is NOT to detract from YOUR sterling efforts

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e238/Tazcannibal/closeupLED.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e238/Tazcannibal/newLEDrearBLANK.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e238/Tazcannibal/lightsonLEDBLANK.jpg


best regards

Taz

Hi Taz,
I've seen pictures of your car before- very nice it is too!
They're pretty much what i was looking to fit to my coupe. Mine's black with silver detail around the lights, so i think it would work well, but like you say, may not suit other colours- will be hard (impossible? )to find one set that suit all colours!
Keep up the good work though guys..

I think that would look really quite excellent with the brake lights working on all 4 rears top and bottom.

Bear in mind though that the fogs are supposed to be brighter than the sidelights so you'd have to spec much brighter/higher spec LED's for those. Especially seeing as you'll be using less of them in comparison.

Its a pity that non of the suppliers are currently using the newer SMT LED's as they are brighter and also much easier to put into any kind of pattern/configuration you like.

Yeah i've looked into this. There is LED's that can be used that are 4 times as bright and would be plenty according to our custom lights guy.

Ross

Well as long as the design is nice enough and suits a red coop i'm not too fussed!!!

Only joking, thanks for all the effort put into this, hopefully see a nice design coming up soon.

Fran

I just thought Id add this pic so you can see a Snotts Green with LEDs:

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc61/chrisbpoole/Coupe2.jpg[/IMG]
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc61/chrisbpoole/RearLEDs2.jpg[/IMG]
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc61/chrisbpoole/Car010.jpg[/IMG]

Last pic answers any queries over how bright they are..

One other thing, when you do get them fitted....you never get to enjoy the blinking things from inside the car!! ..apart from when it's dark and you're reversing towards a glass building you can at last see them in the reflection!

Chris

when it's dark and you're reversing towards a glass building you can at them in the reflection.

Spoke to my custom lights guy today again.

Need a spare rear light. Anyone of them. Anyone got a spare light? Doesnt need to be working but need it to be intact.

Ross

I love owning a Coupe again and reading about great ideas like this which I can think about putting on my car. Hope all you guys' hard work pays off!

carlt must have a spare light surely?

Thats a last gap measure.

Ross

Stupid question here but are any of the off-the-shelf designs e-marked at all?

MOT......?

I dont see how the lights cant pass an mot as long as they clearly do the same job. This is something i am aware of.

Ross

The MOT may not be your problem: loads of things on a car that can go through an MOT but cause you grief the minute you drive on the roads.......I'll send you a pm!

mine are all E marked

As per stans advice, i will need to make sure that the LED's are gonna be perfectly road legal, as we dont want people getting into problems.

Ross

Hello h2ypr, i really liked your idea for those lights and if it works out and there £100-150 i would have a set, although i dont mind the 1s that have been shown with the clear or silver look, last one shown on the green coop, but i think the idea your going with would be very different.

I would be interested in a set h2ypr....

is this going to happen as i am looking at getting some this month

Ground to a halt because of festive period. Also not managed to source a spare light to send to the guy. Im sure i could get it restarted tho.

Ross

I've got a full set of rear lights in my garage.

i gave up waiting to and have just ordered a full set of hella like chrisbp's but with clear centres.

were from jaip

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.d...6fsoo%3D1&fgtp=

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.d...op=1%26fsoo%3D1

he has the hella and the lux vision ones so you can mix and match style and budget.

seemed all good to me.



Paul

that looks a bit costly mate is it not better to get them from here
http://www.coupeteile.de/Leuchten.html

to be hones i looked there before and came away with a headache lol. to much to work out. style, price, euros postage ...

i didnt think £214 was that bad really. well until they turn up maybe and i need a shed load of other items.

i seemed to have just had an order frenzy and taken the easiest route in most cases.

time will tell i guess

Cowboy, is that boy still willing to do a discount for the fccuk?

Ross

dont no ross lets see what happes to jaip first if hes had the hole kit and the cups for 214 its a bloody good price

I thought the guy was gonna do under £200 for fccuk?

Ross

140 for 4 lights but i got no idea how they would work all i no is that the 4 brake ligts did come on together

hay he must of just put these back up for sale again as i have been keeping an eye out for them
http://cgi.ebay.de/Fiat-Coupe-LED-Rueckl...1QQcmdZViewItem

so if we get them at 140 all we need is these from here at 80quid a set so for full set plus cups 220 not bad a
http://www.coupeteile.de/Bilder/Neuteile/LED/Adapter/2.jpg

Ah so you need to buy the cups aswell?

Ross

ok iv got some on the way now see what happens

http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160209604029&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=006


i sell this... complete kit with specific supports...

and about bloody time some one did that how much with posting uk

So you've bought the ones at 240 euros?

Ross

sent email

Yeah how much and whats included please mate?

Ross

Having checked the ad again, using babelfish, it includes the adapters aswell. So around 310-320 euros all in or aorund £240.

Im sure you could do us a discount dude

Ross

just a quick noob question. How come it costs over 200 for 4 lights? do they use any kinda special material? moulding charges?

Well its the LED's and fitments etc. Plus the holders, as a link posted via cowboy.

Ross

saw them on ebay other day, very intresting and a must have but for that price ridiclious

Why do you think they are so expensive, it will cost you £200 for a set of standard replacement lights ?

shocking in my opinion, if you can get light for example a 206 with alot more led's and then larger plastic casing etc for cheaper, when the coup dont have much to them

206 lights = gash
Coupe leds =

Flaviutti has said that everything is provided with his kit, but he cant do a better price than 289 euros + shipping.

Ross

Economy of scale: not enough sales for the coupé lights to make a decent profit after tooling up for production.

meh supose it just gets to me that i have a list a mile long etc

right the price on these is £255 to your door i dont no what they are yet as of his english, but well see. said he will post now so a few days ill post what i got
http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160209604029&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=006

and the girl in pic will fit them,but at a price

Lol.

Let us know Karl.

Ross

does anyone know if the outer LED rings are available in red ? (obviously i know the led's are red, but i mean when they're turned off.)

cost is a good price i see in germany at 420 euros....


i give a special specific support for fiat coupè....

i take this from the "hella" and i make the support from my friend (i pay only support 100 euros fot 4 pices)


shipment cost to uk 32-33 euros about

Im very interested in the led ones, i think the ones cowboy said he has got look nice, and £255 delivered isnt to bad, thats if all goes well Cowboy. I will wait to hear the news.

Oh and hopefully the bird in the pic does fit them for you, because i will pay £350 to get them

the girl in a picture isn't for sell!!!!!


the ring in red????

i ask but i suppose no problem...

contact me in private messange for otehr question

or maybe we can make a group boy....

I think most people will want to wait to see what cowboy says

Ross

.... i'm the cowboy?????


why cowboy??????

Cowboy is another member on the forum, not you

he will tell others what your lights are like

i ask for red colour ring... i think ther's no problem to have red ring.....

i wait confirm....

That's what TD says everytime he's offshore...

^pmsl...

Oi! Back on topic everyone!

Tartan, what wheels are they on your car?