Aargh, now I’m more confused!

What I meant was, who’s organising the group buy/purchase arrangements from the States?

But whoever it is, I’ll probably have a set just incase.

I have asked a company in the states that is happy to supply people regardless of the application! I'm waiting for a reply regarding pricing etc. Their stated price for a set of 6 Siemens injectors is $300, so a unit price of $50. So hopefully we should be able to get better than that.

However, it all depends on shipping costs and duty etc. Also, we need to make sure that these injectors will fit into the fuel rail the same as the original Bosch injectors.

If someone else wants to organise this I am happy to by a set off them!

Matt no i'm not running the group buy.

Yeah on fitment you need Bosch fitment not denso (jap car) or any dirty stopout (sidemount) fitment. You may also need the O rings and spacer if they are not supplied with the injector (most do supply them, but don't rely on it). As a guide if it fits a Golf IV/Porsche etc. it should be OK. If the injectors are a different length then you will have to figure out how to mount them as well.

Ok as far as i know Squid is going to run the GB.

These injectors are meant to be for the live mapping at PT. If your using unchip then that is also OK but unichip *MAY* be able to handle bigger injectors if needed but for now this is what we are sticking to. I will be the first one to post results but this choice of injectors is far superior to the standard injectors (16VT & 20VT).

Once Squid has had confirmation from the supplier on fitment and prices then there should be no reason not to open a GB.

anything happening ?

Yes soon

Ok let me tie up the injectors. I couldn’t wait for a group buy as I needed a set before the end of the month. I ordered from USRT as a set of 10 injectors for:

10x Siemens 380cc: 487.50
> Global Express Mail shipping: 45
> Credit card/PayPal fees: 15.98
> *********************************
> Total: $548.48

They came within five days and are brand new and factory sealed as described

This guy will hold this price for any forum member who e-mails him quoting this thread, so no need to do a group buy you can just order them yourselves.

Please remember that these injectors have not yet been tested with the Live Map yet so they are not 100% proven but I’m certain that they are the best ones to get for our 20VT engines.

Do you know if threre is any chance to order just e set of 5?

Live Map means mapping original ECU on a dyna?

Live Map means mapping original ECU on a dyna?

yes


same question can we order 5 and get the same unit price ? if not, anybody else in the uk want 5 sorry Diego, Brazil not really handy for a group buy

Of course Paul ......I' ll buy from here when I make-up my mind and I' ll be sure they will fit and work properly on my ECU (it seems it will otherwise you guys wouldn1 t buy.....am I right?

I think he will sell five and at the same price just e-mail him your needs.

Just to let you know the other supplier I was talking to BSH Speed shop in Arizona, told me that he had trouble getting these injectors and was putting his prices up.

He told me that Siemens had ceased production of them, so they might become harder to come buy soon. Don't know how true that is though...

TurboJ,

already tested the siemens 380cc?

Monday

OK just had the car on the dyno today and figures are lower than expected due to my crappy 'Powerflow' exhaust strangling my engine. Far too much back pressure (time for a new 3”). Anyhow that aside Rob was very pleased with the injectors and for anyone considering Live map or Unichip these are currently the best injectors for the job. I can’t say any more than that so buy buy buy

fantastic news for the injectors

do we not get the results anyway?

You will when I get the new exhaust fitted. It's choking the engine so badly that boost and advanced had to be pulled very far back. Just removing the exhaust completely say a increase on 30BHP across the rev rang without advancing. But less of my engine and back to injectors.

Ask Squid if he will sell his set as according to PT he may require 440's

i will have a very similar setup to Squid so I may also need the larger injectors

Well then your better of waiting until Squid get his car mapped and see what happens as there are also another set of injectors that Squid is considering and maybe the right ones instead of the 440's for the bigger power coupes. But for coupes under 400BHP these bad boys are the ones to get

Just to figure out TurboJ.... are they plug and play or need some kind of spacer?

Plug and play. No extra parts required. Took me 5 mins to fit once the fuel rail was out.

that' s a very nice answer

I think I'm going to get anothe set of these injectors in the 440 (or the closest size to that) and then turn up at PT with both sets to save on multiple rolling road sessions. That way they can decide which ones to fit.

So, I'll have either a set of 380's or 440's for sale in about 6 weeks.

can I have first refusal Richard?

Is there nothing available between 380 and 440? seems like quite a large jump - 15%+

There is 400's available, as i believe Flea was using them?

Ross

You may also wanna consider a set of these:
http://www.usrallyteam.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10_44&products_id=83

or these too

http://www.usrallyteam.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10_44&products_id=85

Thanks, I'll probably go for a set of the 430's.