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Front ARB - What options? #544899
19/02/2008 06:18
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As per the title, what options do i have ?

Ross

Re: Front ARB - What options? [Re: ] #544902
19/02/2008 06:21
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Dedra, or Eibach

I have the Dedra one with a Rear Eibach......works a treat...

I've been told the front eibach is tooooo stiff

Re: Front ARB - What options? [Re: ] #544903
19/02/2008 06:22
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Eibach is the only company that do them AFAIK, or you could get one of Nigels front brace things.

I think AA used to sell them, although there is a very high lead time on it.

Re: Front ARB - What options? [Re: ] #544907
19/02/2008 06:26
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How is it "tooooo stiff" taz?

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Re: Front ARB - What options? [Re: ] #544915
19/02/2008 06:41
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Decreasing the amount of roll at the front of the car will improve intial turn in but will eventually cause the car to understeer dramatically, on a FWD car if you allow a fair amount of intial body roll at the front, this will transfer more weight to the rear of the car as it goes around the corner, which in turn, if stiff enough will help control overall body roll without overwhelming the amount of traction you have front or rear.

Basically good FWD handling = very stiff rear, compliant front, although the coupe suffers from poor weight distribution so it needs stiff damping to stop it becoming wallowy.

Or something like that, i dont really know what im talking about but you get the picture \:D

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Re: Front ARB - What options? [Re: ] #544928
19/02/2008 07:20
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That makes sense.

I was told that adding a Front ARB without the rear is useless to worse handling than without. But adding with rear ARB is supposed to be a good mod \:D

Ross

Re: Front ARB - What options? [Re: ] #544936
19/02/2008 07:57
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front alone makes the understeer worse \:\(


was Paul S,now just paul...Member since Oct 2000,Coupe may be FATALLY injured - :(oh no it's not smile
Re: Front ARB - What options? [Re: paul] #544945
19/02/2008 12:47
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What size is a Coupe front bar? You could fit a smaller bar from a Tipo. There are 2 different sizes.


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Re: Front ARB - What options? [Re: Scuderia] #545024
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I've got front and rear Eibach bars on mine. I initially fitted the rear bar and drove it around like that for about 3 months, handling was improved but I didn't notice any major difference in roll, the front would still roll quite a bit in corners.
I got the front bar fitted when I had the clutch done, its a pain in the ass job that needs the subframe dropping to get access. Now I noticed the difference, the two bars obviously work well together, much flatter through corners with reduced roll on the front with no increase in understeer.

I think with both bars fitted the natural balance between front and rear is restored, usually if you go stiff at the rear it will reduce understeer but increase oversteer and vice versa at the front, doing both keeps it balanced.

Im not sure how it would feel with Eibach springs, I tailored my front springs to work and feel good with the bar.

Worth doing Ross, I take it you have the rear bar already ?

Re: Front ARB - What options? [Re: Jimbo] #545099
19/02/2008 18:17
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i have a 23mm rear ARB fitted with stock front ARB. certainly no oversteer. if u look at the stock front ARB its damn fat already.

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Re: Front ARB - What options? [Re: ] #545171
19/02/2008 19:25
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I have a supplier locally for the Whiteline rear ARB, that is slightly cheaper than the GB. So im gonna get that.

Ross


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