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uprated turbo #624093
03/06/2008 17:08
03/06/2008 17:08

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Hi, i am new to this forum as i have just bought myself a 20v turbo, i would be looking to upgrade my turbo for a t3/t4 that i have acquired but i would like some advice on how to do this

cheers
snakecharmer.

Re: uprated turbo [Re: ] #624094
03/06/2008 17:09
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sell it and buy another ;\)

Re: uprated turbo [Re: ] #624544
04/06/2008 11:05
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Good bit of information that?..... could you tell me why and also what turbo to go for?

thanx
snakecharmer.

Re: uprated turbo [Re: ] #624546
04/06/2008 11:07
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Which coupe do you own?

What power do you want from the car? How much money do you have to spend? How do you want the car to drive?

Re: uprated turbo [Re: ] #624572
04/06/2008 11:52
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 Originally Posted By: suba
Which coupe do you own?


 Originally Posted By: snakecharmer
i have just bought myself a 20v turbo


bit of a clue there Si! ;\) \:\)

As suba says, you really need to be setting yourself power targets and budgets as you will also need supporting mods with a turbo upgrade! \:\)

Re: uprated turbo [Re: ] #624575
04/06/2008 12:01
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The reason is the 20VT does not have a T3 manifold flange - hence a T3/T4 is no good.

You can upgrade the OE unit to 280bhp by changing compressor wheels etc, most seem to go GT28 series turbos for upgrades normally if funds allow


Re: uprated turbo [Re: ] #624607
04/06/2008 12:57
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Aw pants - A sure fire signal that I am going to be having another blonde day!

Re: uprated turbo [Re: ] #624679
04/06/2008 14:09
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Don't try and choose the turbo - make decisions on what you want the car to do and the choice will be made for you.

For example

Budget
Power aims
Spoolup revs

If the answers are, £3k - £4k, 350 bhp and 3,500rpm, then its a Gt28RS 0.86 or maybe a GT2871 0.64, together with the ancilliaries that would be needed to run the boost required (FMIC, filter, fuel pump, exhaust, chip/remap, boost controller etc etc)

However, if your answer is £1k, 275bhp, 2,500rpm, then you're looking at a GTi-R hybrid, G-Tec 1 chip, K&N panel filter, PRV set to 1.2 bar and a RR session to check the fuelling


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Re: uprated turbo [Re: Nigel] #624707
04/06/2008 14:40
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The reason that i was looking to upgrade was beacouse i think the mannifold has a crack init(or so i was told),it makes a bit of a noise when it is cold but sounds fine when it is warmed up!, but i was going to have a mannifold built for it to fit the t3/t4 as i have a new one which i bought for my calibra turbo but i have recently sold her and bought myself a 20v turbo coupe and i must say i am impressed she isnt as quick as the calibra (yet) but i can see promise.
If anyone has any advice on the little beastie it would be much appreciated.

cheers
snakecharmer

Re: uprated turbo [Re: ] #624715
04/06/2008 14:48
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A well-modded 20VT will be more than a match for a tweaked Calibra

However, unless you're going for over 450bhp, don't bother with the custom manifold - stock is fine.

Also, you might as well sell the T3/T4, as it probably wouldn't be suitable for the Coupe anyway - the 5-pot lump responds quite well to small turbos (I'm at 400bhp from a GT2871)

There's VAST amounts of tuning info on here - get reading \:D


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Re: uprated turbo [Re: ] #624716
04/06/2008 14:48
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I repeat:

What power do you want from the car? How much money do you have to spend? How do you want the car to drive?

Re: uprated turbo [Re: ] #624731
04/06/2008 15:07
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The build will be on going so i will be spending with just the readies at the end of the month... i was just looking at maybe a turbo upgrade, intercooler (front )upgrade, chips, blue flame exhaust, induction, dump valve, le kit and lowering, i will be getting the standard alloys referbished and coloured black.
obviousley i would be doing the other upgrades to go along with the power upgrades(leads, plugs, fuel pump etc)
around 300bhp would be fine for me \:\)

Re: uprated turbo [Re: ] #624740
04/06/2008 15:16
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Go for a GTIR hybrid turbo (uses the standard 20vt mounting on the DP).

Alternatively go for a Garett GT2560R (AKA GT28R) - different mounting and is a more expensive roller bearing unit.

Re: uprated turbo [Re: ] #629769
12/06/2008 19:37
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How much would a GtiR hybrid normally go for.?

Re: uprated turbo [Re: ] #629771
12/06/2008 19:40
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more than a GT28R probably \:D

but you need loads of bits to go with the GT28R to get it to fit.

call Turbo Dynamics and ask them about the MD238 - their code name for the GTiR hybrid.


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