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crank #632864
20/06/2008 10:28
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anybody know were i can get a crank re-ground and balanced for a 20vt properly

Re: crank [Re: volumex] #633008
20/06/2008 14:26
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any F.E.R registered engine remanufacturer would be able to do this

Re: crank [Re: ] #633011
20/06/2008 14:29
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cheers

Re: crank [Re: volumex] #633012
20/06/2008 14:31
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some of them get a bit confused when ballancing them though, just make sure they know its not a v5

Re: crank [Re: ] #633019
20/06/2008 14:35
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will do thanks again

Re: crank [Re: volumex] #633834
21/06/2008 22:14
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the coupe cranks dont like a regrind due to the nitriding which gets removed when ground causing premature wear there a f.aq on here i think


still a 5 cylinder 20vt freak lol
Re: crank [Re: redinstead] #633848
21/06/2008 22:25
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 Originally Posted By: redinstead
the coupe cranks dont like a regrind due to the nitriding which gets removed when ground causing premature wear there a f.aq on here i think


I am pretty sure that is only the 16 valve cranks. Although I may be wrong.

Re: crank [Re: ] #633999
22/06/2008 11:56
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No, its also the 20v.
But you can get it nitridid again - i did, and it works like a charm!

Re: crank [Re: ] #634007
22/06/2008 12:44
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the nitriding would done to a thickness, e.g. 0.6mm, as long as you do not remove to much of the nitriding then you will be fine

You need to find out how thick the nitriding is before you do anything

I personally would just get a good second hand crank, the cost of nirtriding and grinding a crank would probably be more expensive than replacing the crank

Re: crank [Re: ] #634012
22/06/2008 13:05
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Any grinding will remove all the nitriding. Keep in mind most cranks are not nitrided in the first place and they get along fine. If you are building a race engine or something highly stressed its not a good idea but for any average engine it will be fine.

Re: crank [Re: ] #634159
22/06/2008 19:06
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 Originally Posted By: Lars_DK
But you can get it nitridid again - i did, and it works like a charm!


Really??!!??

Re: crank [Re: ] #634192
22/06/2008 20:09
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Yeah - although they called it something else (danish word, and i dont know what it translates to), but its the same treatment that the Le Mans Audi R8 TDi engine gets done. Actually the same guy that does Audi's did mine \:\)

BMW also needs a re-nitride treatment when regrinded. Oh and the 20v workshop manual also describes that a re-nitride treatment is required after a regrind.

Re: crank [Re: ] #634308
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I was under the impression that you could only plasma nitrite when the crank is actually made as a heat treatment. It can be re-applied afterwards but doesn’t actually do anything as it is not gone deep into the material. Can anyone confirm this?

Re: crank [Re: ] #634428
23/06/2008 02:24
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 Originally Posted By: TurboJ
I was under the impression that you could only plasma nitrite when the crank is actually made as a heat treatment. It can be re-applied afterwards but doesn’t actually do anything as it is not gone deep into the material. Can anyone confirm this?


Thats the way I understand it, surely a new or good crank is a better option.

Re: crank [Re: Danhgt] #634445
23/06/2008 08:54
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AFAIK re-nitriding a crank is very difficult and expensive.

Re: crank [Re: Scuderia] #634474
23/06/2008 10:17
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im not convinced they are nitrided in the first place

Re: crank [Re: ] #642284
07/07/2008 15:14
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They ARE nitride hardened - it says so in the workshop manual.


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