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Making the ski hatch bigger..... #640149
03/07/2008 09:51
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I want to get my MTB into the coupe without it being a total PITA (ie. into a bike bag then real struggle to get it onto the back seats)

The bike wont easily fit onto a bike rack due to the frame design (full suss) and I want to use my bike after work - it really needs to fit inside the car (car park at work is very safe, but I wouldnt want to have my expensive bike on show) - this also rules out a roof mounted option

I'm thinking I could remove the solid panel behind the rear seats and replace by welding in a rectangle of box section steel (ie. braces across the top and bottom of where the panel currently sits, with supporting struts at the sides)

With some mods to the seats, hopefully this would enable me to fold the whole rear seats flat....

What do people think?? Coupe breakers, is this possible??


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Re: Making the ski hatch bigger..... [Re: GraemeC] #640156
03/07/2008 10:09
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I thought about this before - if they can make a ski hatch, why on earth didn't they design it so both seats can fold flat? The panel surely cannot be 'structural' apart from supporting the back of the seats.

I'd be interested to know how you get on...

Re: Making the ski hatch bigger..... [Re: ] #640160
03/07/2008 10:12
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The panel is structural; it's providing a lot of diagonal stiffness within the shell of the car, stops it twisting.


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Re: Making the ski hatch bigger..... [Re: barnacle] #640163
03/07/2008 10:15
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I thought it would be structural, hence the rectangle of box section steel, but I'm guessing that probably wont be enough....


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Re: Making the ski hatch bigger..... [Re: GraemeC] #640233
03/07/2008 11:31
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The two wheels and rear mech off, use one side of a cardboard bike box on the rear seats.
Sit the frame into a punto boot liner, which keeps the mud and water contained and you can use it to lift the frame in and out of the car.
Put the wheels in then and a dark blue sheet over the bike/wheels, sorted !

I'll post a picture of the set up later, the only way to carry my bike in the boot, is to take the fork and rear shock off shocked


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Re: Making the ski hatch bigger..... [Re: darmtb] #640236
03/07/2008 11:40
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Now that sounds like a plan.....apart from the rear mech off bit (really cant be bothered doing that every time I want to go for an hours ride after work!) - would a chain keeper avoid this by keeping the tension on the mech?

I need to get this sorted or

a) I'll have to borrow the gf's Golf a lot more, which means she drives my coupe through every pothole in the road to a busy supermarket and parks up next to a people carrier full of kids shocked

b) I get a large loan and buy an Audi RS2 laugh


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Re: Making the ski hatch bigger..... [Re: barnacle] #640267
03/07/2008 12:13
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Originally Posted by barnacle
The panel is structural; it's providing a lot of diagonal stiffness within the shell of the car, stops it twisting.


Or not, as the case may be. laugh


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Re: Making the ski hatch bigger..... [Re: GraemeC] #640286
03/07/2008 12:36
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Originally Posted by GraemeC
Now that sounds like a plan.....apart from the rear mech off bit (really cant be bothered doing that every time I want to go for an hours ride after work!) - would a chain keeper avoid this by keeping the tension on the mech?

I need to get this sorted or

a) I'll have to borrow the gf's Golf a lot more, which means she drives my coupe through every pothole in the road to a busy supermarket and parks up next to a people carrier full of kids shocked

b) I get a large loan and buy an Audi RS2 laugh


How about the Astra shed for sale on here - hatchback, and you wouldn't even worry about the dirt laugh

Re: Making the ski hatch bigger..... [Re: ] #640324
03/07/2008 13:10
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Isn't the coupe bassed on the Tipo floor pan? Pretty sure they had fold down back seats and a big hatchback. Just wondered if they had addtional structural bits?

Re: Making the ski hatch bigger..... [Re: ] #640327
03/07/2008 13:12
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I have thought about that, drawbacks are

1) additonal cost of tax, insurance and maintenance
2) I'll have an Astra shed parked outside my house shocked
3) the gf will realise the only reason I've got the Astra shed is so I dont have to borrow her golf, resulting in the aforementioned trip to supermarket, potholes and parking next to people carriers rolleyes


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Re: Making the ski hatch bigger..... [Re: GraemeC] #640330
03/07/2008 13:16
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Having just looked at the Astra advert, its not such a shed, but with only one off road parking space and two cars already, I've really got nowhere to park it....


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Re: Making the ski hatch bigger..... [Re: GraemeC] #641095
04/07/2008 15:59
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Here's my set up for carrying the bike in a Coupé, on roadtrips or holiday when I'm taking the car.
I use my Pug Partner van the rest of the time.

Cardboard bike box
Punto boot liner
I take off the rear mech for a bit more room.
You can lift the bike into and out of the car with the liner Keeps any mud on the liner and as little as possible in the car.

You don't have to take the rear mech off, I find taking it off helps for putting into and out of the car, but that would depend of the lenght of the wheelbase of the bike.

I also put another piece of cardboard from the bike box under the chainrings along with an old rag to stop it cutting into the seats.
I throw an old navy blue sheet over the bike, you'd hardly notice the bike in the car, especially after dark.


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Re: Making the ski hatch bigger..... [Re: GraemeC] #641235
04/07/2008 19:49
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Originally Posted by GraemeC

b) I get a large loan and buy an Audi RS2 laugh


RS2?

is that something new i've no heard of or do you mean an S2? wink

Re: Making the ski hatch bigger..... [Re: ] #641253
04/07/2008 20:14
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Even better, an RS6 avant evil

Re: Making the ski hatch bigger..... [Re: ] #641263
04/07/2008 20:34
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RS2 was an Audi estate from the mid 1990's. It has been seriously tweaked by Porche and is bl**dy quick to say the least. Some people claim it could out accelerate a Maclaren F1 from 0-30mph!

Group buy for all us mountain bikers on the forum perhaps?


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