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Re: Performance bin files [Re: kj16v] #678609
13/09/2008 01:47
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<Moderator> This sort of post will not be tolerated. Do not post in this manner again.

Last edited by stan; 13/09/2008 08:21. Reason: Abuse of other members is against the rules and will not be tolerated
Re: Performance bin files [Re: kj16v] #678610
13/09/2008 01:58
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kj16v:

shit stirring indeed...

Why should he give his xdf? Is there a particular rule saying that you spend hours and hours doing something and then giving it to everyone just like that?
BTW, you are talking bull yourself, so watch it please wink

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Re: Performance bin files [Re: ] #678622
13/09/2008 07:24
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Dinks XDF is his property, he wrote it.

pay your money if you want it


Re: Performance bin files [Re: Saint] #678701
13/09/2008 13:40
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Originally Posted by Kenneth


i checked with Kenneth, his original evo file and my original evo file are exactly the same, which is a good thing as we have proof from 2 sources.

To get into technical details,

Before the coupé and lancia delta 2, the integrale evo2 was realeased. Barry quickly realised the EVO2 chips were pretty well mapped, especially the ignition advance, altough it's knocking a bit in high rpm it was better than the evo1 or 16V. For the coupé, fiat made a bit of a mess out of it, verry safe ignition advance to be sure the engine is not detting, lazy enrichment tables making the car feel a bit lumpy and a classic, dumping fuel in high rpm for emmissions.

What evocars did is they took a bog standard coupé file and upgraded it with the integrale evo2 injection table and EVO2 ignition table (and some other rubbish). Then they remapped the overboost boost table. Nothing more nothing less. My opinion is that nobody really owns the 'evocars', it's part evocars, part lancia themselves. Anyway it's too late now. Whether evocars reworked their eprom later on i can't tell as i only got one of his first chips.

What evocars did is some cleaver mixing and matching between the chips because they had the knowledge of the previous models.

Altough it was a good idea back and it was faster than stock chip it is now outdated and it had some problems as well.

Since, there is some serious progress in chip mapping and the available tools. Now there exist wideband lambda sensors, boost gauges, EGT-sensors, knock sensor logging, engine diagnostics, etc..

All of that and the fact i coulden't find an appropriate chip for my car in the wide selection of generic chips made me create one myself. Something that took me a full year to do, including figuring out the chip. Now more than ever i realise more how chips could be improved and what was wrong with them before.

I'm sure if Barry was still alive he would have come up with a new chip as well. It's time to move on!



p.s. kj16V, The only one who is not here any more is Paulinho ok. For obvious reasons.

Not verry nice of you to reply in that way.

I replied your PM nicely and explained why i diden't want to send the xdf. Vas and myself have probably sent hundreds of mails about the chip decoding and chip mapping questions and it took us a lot of time to get it sorted. Now why would i send it to a total stranger who sents me a 2 line long PM? Good for you managed to decode it too, see it wasn't that hard after all then smile

Re: Performance bin files [Re: kj16v] #679844
15/09/2008 22:29
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Originally Posted by kj16v
<Moderator> This sort of post will not be tolerated. Do not post in this manner again.


Quite right. I was out of order bringing that up in public. I'll keep any such matter private.

Re: Performance bin files [Re: kj16v] #679867
15/09/2008 23:05
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Dink - great post on how those chips were made

Thanks for that


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