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performance figures 0-60 times
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18/10/2008 00:46
18/10/2008 00:46
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20vste
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hi im sure you havent had these questions asked b4 and ive tried to search,but what are the bhp/0-60 times of the 16v and 16v turbo cheers soon to be coupe owner
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
[Re: chrissy]
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18/10/2008 00:54
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20vste
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ouch thats a bit harsh on the n/a lol,an owners site i was on a few years ago(turbo drivers thought they were "BETTER"than n/a drivers)hope thats not the case here lol
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
[Re: chrissy]
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18/10/2008 07:58
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suba
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suba
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why do you think the 16vt is that much slower than a 20vt to 60? - personally I dont think there would be anything in it if you could launch both pretty well.
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
[Re: Flea]
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18/10/2008 08:45
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Dunno, Flea - you're the expert on 20s But of course it's not the absolute power per se that defines acceleration, except at a specific rpm, but rather the area under the torque curve for the rev range of interest. Maybe the 16vt has less lower down? I know after driving both new several times I decided on the NA as the low-end torque and general in-town drivability was better; the turbo lag was a dog! Neil
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
[Re: barnacle]
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18/10/2008 08:50
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technics
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What about the extra cylinder and 4 valves......??
Now in the 400+ bhp club!
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
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18/10/2008 09:34
18/10/2008 09:34
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MattW
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NA's arent that slow, I had one following me at a meet, and even with over 300bhp I didnt leave him on the horizon like most with cars. Having said that, the difference gets bigger at higher speeds, even more so at illegal speeds (on the public road)
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
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18/10/2008 11:02
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i would say the 16vt is the harder car to launch than the 20vt due to the turbo kicking in later, much easier to get bogged down.
but i didn't think the 0-60 for a 16vt was 7.9???????
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
[Re: barnacle]
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18/10/2008 12:39
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what aload of plop! i bet that if you out a standard 16vt against a standard 20vt you wouldn't see much difference i've had both and now my third one is the turbo plus and i bet that couldn't pull away from the 16vt, infact i'd be willing to put that to the test i've had two 20vt's now and i still think i prefered my 16vt just my opinion and personal experience though.
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
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#693681
18/10/2008 12:40
18/10/2008 12:40
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doody
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i meen "put" not out in my 2nd line
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
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#693695
18/10/2008 13:14
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A lot of the mags at the time - autocar et al - had the 16vt at 6.9 to sixty. Or roundabout.. If you have a look in the section with all the old articles.
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
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18/10/2008 14:42
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The journalists did 0-60 in 6 seconds in a standard 20vt, not 6.5, but they said if it didnt cut the boost in those lower gears then it would be mid 5's. I cant get lower than that very easily because the wheels just spin and I have to use half throttle in 1st.
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
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18/10/2008 15:08
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"The journalists did 0-60 in 6 seconds in a standard 20vt, not 6.5, but they said if it didnt cut the boost in those lower gears then it would be mid 5's."
Sounds about right. That's similar to what an MR2 turbo manages, which obviously doesn't have the wheelspin issue.. Bit of a naff benchmark really, unless you have no mechanical sympathy whatsoever.
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
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18/10/2008 15:15
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so, would the 0-60 time of a 20vt that was chipped so boosted higher in 1st and 2nd,and the boost at 1.2, and had about 250ish bhp be about 5.5 seconds ish?
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
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#693752
18/10/2008 16:06
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suba
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The journalists did 0-60 in 6 seconds in a standard 20vt, not 6.5, but they said if it didnt cut the boost in those lower gears then it would be mid 5's. I cant get lower than that very easily because the wheels just spin and I have to use half throttle in 1st. 20vt only cuts the boost if there is wheelspin - there is no limiter. The 0-60 time in pretty much any coupe turbo is all down to the launch - not the overall power of the car.
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
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18/10/2008 19:04
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Cutter, limiter.... same difference It cuts it if it thinks there is wheelspin when there actually isnt.
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
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#693837
18/10/2008 19:09
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suba
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nope - it will only cut the boost if the revs rise too fast, i.e. wheelspin, otherwise you get full whack.
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
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#693841
18/10/2008 19:27
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MattW
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Hmmm, a standard coupe doesnt wheelspin in the dry at 1 bar, so it shouldnt ever need to cut the boost in the dry then, but it definitely did when it was tested because they mentioned it.
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
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#693844
18/10/2008 19:33
18/10/2008 19:33
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suba
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Using what tyres, on what surface, with the correct tracking, toe, etc.?
A standard coupe will overboost to 1.4 bar - they were designed to. When my car was standard I could get the fronts squealing in 2nd gear in the dry on acceleration.
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
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#693845
18/10/2008 19:35
18/10/2008 19:35
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MattW
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1.4 bar it might I guess Mine didnt wheelspin at all at 265bhp on a standard turbo at 1.2 bar though.
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
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#693853
18/10/2008 19:44
18/10/2008 19:44
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suba
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suba
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Yours must be a super coupe.
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Re: performance figures 0-60 times
[Re: Nigel]
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18/10/2008 22:25
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Mine has tiny wheelspin and thats it I'm off with no problem's and I'm standard.
Couple of questions to the experts.........
Does that GTEC chip everyone talks about knock the boost limiter off?
Does having LSD on this car help in any way and what type of LSD is it? (I remember a conversation when I first got this car by someone saying to me it won't make much difference in a FWD).
Anyway in my opinion, 0-60 times are all about the driver. I've been in heavily modded fast cars with different driver's and seen different behavior. judging, distance, timing and aggression seems to be very different depending on experience & maturity and of course the car.
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