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coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FWD
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01/11/2008 22:22
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crgracing
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well after months weighting for my new set of team dynamics rims , falken tyres , set of shocks and front bearings ive finally fitted everything and i cant belive the grip the car had, i now once i mentioned that the coop didnt have much grip but all the bits i had where broken so now i understand why all you guys tolled me that the coop was excelent.
now im weighting for the lowered springs and hope that will giveme better steering wich will probly do, and rear bearings.
i now its a fiat but.....i love it.
Last edited by crgracing; 01/11/2008 22:23.
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Re: coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FWD
[Re: Per]
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04/11/2008 00:59
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DidCoop
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I really need to get mine to handle now although it's on Apex springs and uprated shocks already? Why does mine not handle well 
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Re: coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FWD
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04/11/2008 09:29
04/11/2008 09:29
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GraemeC
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Have you replaced all the suspension components ? (wishbones, top mounts drop links etc) Do this and it will feel like a new car!
My car has all new suspension components, front upper and lower braces, Whiteline rear ARB, Bilsteins and Eibach springs and the handling is excellent! It could probably be made better with coilovers, but I have to use my car everyday and dont fancy a really hard ride (its already quite a bit harder than standard)
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Re: coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FWD
[Re: GraemeC]
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04/11/2008 12:21
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MarioCirillo
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Have you replaced all the suspension components ? (wishbones, top mounts drop links etc) Do this and it will feel like a new car! How much are we looking at? I have a 20v NA, it has NOT been lowered, it currently has Turbo+ wheels on it and the ride comfort is really really bad, even with the standard na wheels its no better. What should i be looking at checking? it seems a bit too tough a ride. . . Mario
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Re: coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FWD
[Re: MarioCirillo]
#702341
04/11/2008 12:36
04/11/2008 12:36
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Southsea
Gunzi
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Mario, have a look here for bits to replace. Alternative Autos (amongst others) can supply parts, pattern & OE Fiat.
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Re: coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FWD
[Re: kj16v]
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09/11/2008 22:22
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symonh2000
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My 16VT definitely handled better than my 20VT. However the 16VT was on 18" wheels. The kindest thing I can say about my standard 20VT is that it is average. There are plenty more cars out there that handle better. 
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Re: coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FW
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09/11/2008 23:40
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Spee
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Spee
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My 16VT definitely handled better than my 20VT. However the 16VT was on 18" wheels. The kindest thing I can say about my standard 20VT is that it is average. There are plenty more cars out there that handle better. Now you've opened a can of worms!!! 
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Re: coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FW
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09/11/2008 23:54
09/11/2008 23:54
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symonh2000
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My 16VT definitely handled better than my 20VT. However the 16VT was on 18" wheels. The kindest thing I can say about my standard 20VT is that it is average. There are plenty more cars out there that handle better. Now you've opened a can of worms!!! I don't mind, as I speak as I find.  The handling difference may hev been down to the wheels. I haven't driven a 20VT on 18" wheels, so I can't say for sure though. Both cars were on the standard suspension. The 16VT had done 107k miles, my 20VT has 84k showing, although my 20VT has had all of the front suspension replaced apart from the dampers and springs themselves..
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Re: coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FW
[Re: kj16v]
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10/11/2008 14:57
10/11/2008 14:57
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Nigel
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my 20VT has had all of the front suspension replaced apart from the dampers and springs themselves.. not really "all of the front suspension" then really, especially when the standard springs and dampers account for most of the lack of precision for which the car is criticised. a well-sorted 20vt is a formidable handling car. Yes, I know there are MANY better-handling cars out there, but very few are FWD, and those that are, tend to be quite recent designs. If you allow the Coupe some improvements to compete with more modern kit, it can be VERY good. If you look at some of the RWD (and 4WD) cars I beat at TOTB this year (half a dozen Skylines, handful of Exiges, that sort of thing), there's no way you could ever claim that the Coupe won't handle
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Re: coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FW
[Re: Nigel]
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10/11/2008 17:15
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symonh2000
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my 20VT has had all of the front suspension replaced apart from the dampers and springs themselves.. not really "all of the front suspension" then really, especially when the standard springs and dampers account for most of the lack of precision for which the car is criticised. a well-sorted 20vt is a formidable handling car. Yes, I know there are MANY better-handling cars out there, but very few are FWD, and those that are, tend to be quite recent designs. If you allow the Coupe some improvements to compete with more modern kit, it can be VERY good. If you look at some of the RWD (and 4WD) cars I beat at TOTB this year (half a dozen Skylines, handful of Exiges, that sort of thing), there's no way you could ever claim that the Coupe won't handle I see your point Nigel, and I do intend to replace them soon. The thing is though the 16VT was also on its original dampers, and they had done even more miles.
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Re: coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FW
[Re: kj16v]
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10/11/2008 20:54
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MattW
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Well 18's should have made it handle worse 18s handle worse on poor road surfaces but I actually think they are better on a good smooth surface. The sidewall of the tyre feels stiffer where as a standard tyre feels like it does \ ____\ that more.
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Re: coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FW
[Re: GraemeC]
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10/11/2008 21:05
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symonh2000
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Come on Nigel, when are you going to give us a full description of your set up?? I don't think I could afford Nigels setup.
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Re: coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FW
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10/11/2008 21:35
10/11/2008 21:35
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Nigel
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You'd be REALLY surprised..... this is the total of ALL my handling mods Secondhand Eibach springs - £50 Secondhand Koni shocks - £100 Lancia Dedra front ARB - £150 Novitec rear ARB - £135 Polybushed front wishbones - £200 Secondhand strut brace - £50 Lower subframe brace - £85 30 years of driving experience - priceless  nothing special, about £800 in total, spent over 5 years.
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Re: coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FW
[Re: Nigel]
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10/11/2008 23:22
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GraemeC
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Have to admit, I am surprised - my own setup is one of the tried and tested coupe formulas and not that different to yours...
Eibach springs
Bilstein shocks
Whiteline rear ARB
Strut brace
Lower subframe brace (thanks!)
No polybushes, but wishbones etc. all renewed less than two years ago and mainly motorway miles since
Interesting, perhaps I need to take my coupe on a track to see what it can do.... This could get expensive...
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Re: coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FW
[Re: GraemeC]
#707737
14/11/2008 16:24
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Per
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Did my first drive with lower front subframe brace (OMP) and it really made a difference.  A lot stiffer front end which you could feel over uneven surfaces especially, much like the effect of the Sparco strutbrace. I suspect it would even effect the handling a little sometimes, possibly under hard braking. Very nice, now I just need a welder to adjust it for max clearance.
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Re: coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FW
[Re: jimboy]
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14/11/2008 21:38
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crgracing
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Re: coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FW
[Re: crgracing]
#708188
15/11/2008 17:36
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jimboy
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hey,hey,hey......all the bits on the coop :D..poly wish/bones,billies, track rod ends,drop/links new brakes,bottom strut/bar etc,etc....like a new car only small issue is the oil drain plug,the bottom/bar is in the way  my mate who is a mechanic with his own business charged me £60 for the whole lot, now he IS a friend 
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: coupe handling ...i think its to good for a FW
[Re: crgracing]
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16/11/2008 11:45
16/11/2008 11:45
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jimboy
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hey Crgracing found a tyre place open on a Sunday so going to get tracking done.i think its better to get this checked out sooner than later.(any excuse for a wee blast :D) i know what you mean, boys&their toys ach i don't think ill ever grow up  just a quick update...had the tracking done £30 for 15mns work ach i cant complain anyhoo wow this car of mine sits on the road like sh[te to a blanket.. i see what Nigel&others means by a well set up coop & i haven't touched the ARB,s don't know if i will now. i may leave that for another time :D... i,m still smiling
Last edited by jimboy; 16/11/2008 13:27.
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