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Aftermarket lsd 20VT #733544
23/12/2008 15:58
23/12/2008 15:58

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Guys,


I don't know if this can be fitted

LSD

Is there any other lsd for 20VT? I have 5 gears transmission?


Thx

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #733715
23/12/2008 20:26
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That wont fit a 20vt mate

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: Gaz] #733733
23/12/2008 21:21
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It might just be a generic picture Gaz ? Why not email Quaife and ask them.

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: Jimbo] #733736
23/12/2008 21:28
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Is the gearbox on a 20v the same as a 20vt?

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #733758
23/12/2008 21:54
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The one listed won't work due to the Turbo models having the viscous coupling.

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #733767
23/12/2008 22:07
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I think the assumption is that you'd remove the viscodrive if you were fitting an LSD. Might need some dummy/blank parts fabricated but should be do-able.


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Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: mattB] #733769
23/12/2008 22:11
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I would of thought they would of listed it for a 20vt if it fitted it.

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: Gaz] #733784
23/12/2008 22:39
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when I bought mine Quaife were unaware of the similarity between the 156 V6 2.5 and the 20vt 6 speed boxes (internals are interchangable)

But not sure if that will go in the 5 speed, and you have to remove the viscous coupling. Auto Integrale did this for me, so I have no idea how it was done

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #733828
24/12/2008 00:38
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I've removed viscous coupling tonight, since I've broke it:( I will be buying Quaife, just to make sure it can fit 20VT 5 speed. In case it can fit, what other parts will I be needing? Anyone? I've asked directly Quaife if their LSD can be fitted on 5 speed 20VT and guy from Quaife just sent me link for 20V LSD and said you can read all there:( I will ask again. I will update as soon as I get response from them

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #733850
24/12/2008 03:04
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A friend bought the LSD of quaife to Coupe 20V, for put in a Marea 20VT (even Gearbox 5 speeds of 20VT), and did not serve the tips of axle does not fit.
Then he came into contact with the Quaife and informed them that this is LSD only to 20V N/A versions, where the tips of axle are thinner, and quaife informed had not yet a model for the specific 20VT.

Cheers,
Mathew.

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #733866
24/12/2008 07:21
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Quaife built that diff a long time ago and had it listed only for an Alfa. Unknown to them, it fits a whole lot of Fiat and lancia's too. They have since updated their listings

N/A Coupes have the C510 gearbox, same as a Tipo 16V. Coupes are based on the Tipo afterall.

However for the turbo models they went with the existing turbo gearbox as used in the Thema turbo and Integrale etc. These boxes are quite a different beast, hence the Quaife diff will not fit.

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #733969
24/12/2008 11:44
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 Originally Posted By: MWT
the tips of axle does not fit.
Then he came into contact with the Quaife and informed them that this is LSD only to 20V N/A versions, where the tips of axle are thinner, and quaife informed had not yet a model for the specific 20VT.

Cheers,
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is this the only only problem? I think axle tips could be solved, these are words of my mechanic:)

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #734017
24/12/2008 13:09
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Would any of the alfa Q2 diffs fiat the coupe?

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: paddy] #734093
24/12/2008 15:06
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i am having a alfa 156 2.5 v6 lsd but trying to figure out how to fit it to 5speeder .what parts should i need to put in the 5speeder.do anyone can tell me what parts should i get from 2.5 v6.tq

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #734402
25/12/2008 12:56
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20V & 20VT have different drive shafts.

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #734495
25/12/2008 21:58
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Kaaz make an LSD for the Coupe,dont they?

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #734593
26/12/2008 09:52
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I've contacted Kaaz, we will see.

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #736034
29/12/2008 22:38
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I think Kaaz could be fitted into 5speed 20VT. I didn't receive response from them, but according to them model DBA2510 is same for Alfa 156 2.5, Alfa GTV 3.0 V6 and Alfa 164.

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #736108
30/12/2008 00:30
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Also have a look at Gripper LSD,s.

Autodelta use them for Alfa,s and rebrand them as their own and whack up the price to silly money and claim that its their own special diff.Not true at all.Rip Off Merchants.

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #736172
30/12/2008 09:32
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I've receive response from Kaaz, they don't manufactur L.S.D for Fiat at all. Does anyone know if Alfa 156 2.5, Alfa GTV 3.0 V6 and Alfa 164 has similarity with 20VT 5speed? I just contacted Gripper, we will see

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #739034
04/01/2009 11:03
04/01/2009 11:03

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I've checked Bacci Romano

and there it says that same L.S.D goes for Lancia Thema, Fiat Coupe Turbo, Alfa 155 V6, Alfa 164, and Alfa GTV, also as I wrote before on Kaaz site same L.S.D. goes for Alfa 156 2.5, Alfa GTV 3.0 V6. Any help appreciated. Thx

Last edited by Nobby; 04/01/2009 13:15. Reason: Link fixed for you
Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #739894
05/01/2009 15:06
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As for the Alfa Q2 diff, it can be fitted to any Alfa V6 6 speed box, 6 speed 8 & 16v 1.9JTD boxes, and 5 speed 2.4JTD 10v boxes, I have the Q2 fitted to my 156 2.4 JTD,its an excellent unit.

I have been told by several sources that the Q2 will fit the Coupe 20VT as its based on the Alfa V6 gearbox, I'll know for sure in a few weeks as I hope swap the viscodrive for the Q2 in my trackday coupe

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #739952
05/01/2009 16:21
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Are you using a new Q2 diff and if so how much was it?

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #739970
05/01/2009 16:33
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 Originally Posted By: sparco
Are you using a new Q2 diff and if so how much was it?


yeah its in my Alfa 156, its the same unit from the Alfa GT, it cost €280 and is a complete bargain!

I got it from AH Motorsport, I'll be ordering another for the coupe soon from them if it fits

AH Motorsport

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #739982
05/01/2009 16:41
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280!! my god thats a bargain, its a torsen like the quaife and thats 650, maybe not as strong - who knows but at that price why worry. Be great to hear you feedback on the coupe alfamale. Cheers

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #740014
05/01/2009 17:16
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 Originally Posted By: sediciRich
280!! my god thats a bargain, its a torsen like the quaife and thats 650, maybe not as strong - who knows but at that price why worry. Be great to hear you feedback on the coupe alfamale. Cheers


yep its great value in comparison to the Quaife, one of the Dublin lads off Alfaowner is running a Q2 on his Supercharged 156 GTA, after he killed his Quaife diff and it compares favourably.

as for my own personal experiance so far, the Q2 on Alfa is far more responsive than the Viscodrive on the coupe, it bites harder into the corners, downside is the slight tugging and pulling at the wheel on uneven roads

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #740168
05/01/2009 20:11
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Thanks Alfamale, I'll give it a try. I'll sell it if it don't fit in 20VT:)

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #740231
05/01/2009 21:35
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 Originally Posted By: Mare
Thanks Alfamale, I'll give it a try. I'll sell it if it don't fit in 20VT:)


No problem, let me know how you get on, a phone call to AH Motorsports will soon let you know if it will fit or not

Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: ] #740448
06/01/2009 06:15
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Would that Q2 fit the 16v turbo box 5 speed?


Re: Aftermarket lsd 20VT [Re: Saint] #740461
06/01/2009 08:50
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Now that is interesting. £280 is a lot less than £700. I see they do plate LSD as well. I think i'll give them a call.

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