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20v VIS? #753347
22/01/2009 11:42
22/01/2009 11:42
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Fareham, Hants
Wal_S Offline OP
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I've had my Coop for a month or so now and am loving it but have a real newbie question so please don't flame me...

My car is a Feb 99 20V N/A with what I thought was a "old school" engine but after reading the forum I'm not sure. Looking through the mountain of bills etc I found out it was a Dutch import which from my Scooby days was a big thing around that time.

The rocker cover has 20 VIS on it but obviously any one could swap this with a later car, how can I tell whether I have the VIS engine or not? The car kicks nicely at around 4K and certainly feels like some variator magic is going on.

Externally it has old wheels etc but just wondered was this engine available on non UK cars before Aug 99? I have bills for everything bar an engine replacement so guess it hasn't been changed. Reading an old EVO with a Coop buyers guide it was mentioned imports had different (harder) suspension, any truth in this either?

Thanks for any info.


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Re: 20v VIS? [Re: Wal_S] #753356
22/01/2009 12:02
22/01/2009 12:02
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Aldershot
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Have a look for an accelerator cable, the VIS engine doesn't have one as it has a fly by wire throttle.


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Re: 20v VIS? [Re: PeteP] #753364
22/01/2009 12:10
22/01/2009 12:10

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Mine is a 99 vis and that has the old style wheels

Re: 20v VIS? [Re: ] #753369
22/01/2009 12:13
22/01/2009 12:13
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the inlet plenum (cant spell) will be plastic if its vis, cast if its a standerd

Re: 20v VIS? [Re: PeteP] #753374
22/01/2009 12:18
22/01/2009 12:18
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A lot of the mainland Euro supplied imports were RHD cars supplied to British Forces serving in Europe. The cars although RHD were not always to FULL UK specification. Items that were standard fit on UK cars may not be fitted, as standard, to these imports.

For example the Fiat Coupé alarm system on UK Coupés was not a Fiat factory fit, it was fitted in the UK by the importer ;\)

As for stiffer suspension etc I am not aware of any differences.

Bob


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Re: 20v VIS? [Re: Barmybob] #753381
22/01/2009 12:23
22/01/2009 12:23

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DanielTheManual
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Do you have colour-coded sills?

Re: 20v VIS? [Re: ] #753398
22/01/2009 12:45
22/01/2009 12:45
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Fareham, Hants
Wal_S Offline OP
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Thanks for all replies and info, I'm off to brave the rain now to have a look.
Unfortunately no colour coded sills just black, car was owned by a civvie from new so think it was a personal import.
Cheers again

Wal


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Re: 20v VIS? [Re: ] #753412
22/01/2009 12:55
22/01/2009 12:55
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 Originally Posted By: porkypaul
Mine is a 99 vis and that has the old style wheels


So did my old 99 n/a - it also had black sills. IIRC the new style wheels, different grille, coloured coded sills came in later in 99, coinciding with V-registered UK cars.

Re: 20v VIS? [Re: simonj] #753417
22/01/2009 13:02
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the most direct method of checking is the inlet plenum, wheels, side skirts, sills, they can all be changed......the inlet plenum cant, well it can...but it wont be a vis any more

Re: 20v VIS? [Re: samsite999] #753468
22/01/2009 13:47
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Wal_S Offline OP
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Well managed to dodge the rain and know what my car is now.

Inlet manifold/Plenum Plastic
Throttle cable Absent

Therefore I assume it must be a VIS which is a nice bonus, never going to turn down some extra power. I am 99.9% positive it hasn't had an engine change so foreign changeover must have been earlier than UK.

Of course the downside is that the Variator going belly up is something else to add to the (scarily long)list of things to go U/S...

Thanks for all your help.

Wal


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Re: 20v VIS? [Re: Wal_S] #753494
22/01/2009 14:11
22/01/2009 14:11
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welcome to the world of vis!

Re: 20v VIS? [Re: samsite999] #753527
22/01/2009 15:00
22/01/2009 15:00
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Hi Wal_s

think the ecu being in the engine bay is also
a bit of a clue.

cheers Kevin

Re: 20v VIS? [Re: elsie] #753577
22/01/2009 16:06
22/01/2009 16:06
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Fareham, Hants
Wal_S Offline OP
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Cheers guys for the welcome and thanks for all the pointers.
Got it on the ramp tonight after work changing the gearbox oil so will nose around it a bit more then.

Wal


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Re: 20v VIS? [Re: Wal_S] #753586
22/01/2009 16:14
22/01/2009 16:14
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Hiya Wal and welcome to VIS coupe ownership, this model coupe is the nicest sounding out of them all ;\)

Here's a little light reading that might interest you

http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=751050&fpart=1

Re: 20v VIS? [Re: Countrycruising] #753596
22/01/2009 16:31
22/01/2009 16:31
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Fareham, Hants
Wal_S Offline OP
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Joe

Thanks for the link and it sounds/looks great, just getting mine back up to scratch first!
Got the usual replacements coming up (rad, brakes etc) over the next few months but looking forward to some "mods" in the future.

Will pm you in the near future to check availability of some (hopefully) minor bits and pieces, thanks again.

Wal


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Re: 20v VIS? [Re: Wal_S] #753600
22/01/2009 16:38
22/01/2009 16:38
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Ipswich 06/08/2002
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VIS engine was introduced June/July 98 \:\)


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