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Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1106239
23/09/2010 22:15
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Nice! So when you on actual dyno bud?
What is max boost you running... 1.4 bar I'm guessin?
My 3 bar map sensor came today.... Just need to get car running properly now!! Do you plan on running boost over 1.5 in future, will your turbo still be efficient above that?

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Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: nick_d] #1106294
24/09/2010 04:10
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boost is around 1.45bar
and this is with standard cams, and just a little headwork.
RR day is 01.10
I really need a E-boost 2 or something good boost control next. I´m getting some wheelspin laugh
1-2 gear have to modify some lower numbers.
maybe around 1.2bar, because with 420nm it wasnt problem, but it is today..
hopefully I run on the future around 1.7bar boost, the turbo is capable of that.
I just needs to talk Dink over for doing the program to me laugh

Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1106345
24/09/2010 09:50
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In the list you wrote that you saved 25 kg of the bonnet.
Have you made a new one in fiberglass?


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Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: Freddan72] #1106625
24/09/2010 17:32
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yes, its from fiberglass..

total costs for material was around 150e .

I dont have it yet on my car, but on my backyard, yes laugh

I will posts some pictures..

my car is not ready at all, so its not that pretty.. frown

Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1106818
25/09/2010 07:48
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on the first page on my project topic, there is this
photobucket link, theres some pictures

Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1109651
01/10/2010 05:53
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Ok..

its soon time to go..

and afternoon...

I tell my this summer numbers cool

Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1109674
01/10/2010 08:17
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good luck..... I'm guessing 368 bhp & 460nm torque! smile

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Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: nick_d] #1109680
01/10/2010 08:36
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clutch wont hold anymore laugh

maybe have to do something next winter.. yes its standard at least 5-year old one laugh

power : 357,5hp / 5700rpm 1.45bar
torque : 455,7nm


I would say something like 10 - 15hp still to come, the boost creep is after that, so power goes down.


over 400nm between 3050rpm -6000rpm


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Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1109687
01/10/2010 08:49
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I´m after 17,5hp .. so I can get my original goal..

laugh

Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1109694
01/10/2010 09:09
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Excellent result, got a graph Jarkko?


Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: Saint] #1109695
01/10/2010 09:11
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on the table next to me .. yes.. laugh


I will take a picture of that.
hopefully today...

Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1109712
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is this the TD05Hr or TD05HRA (titanium) and is it the 9.8t hotside of the 10.5T?


Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: Saint] #1109786
01/10/2010 11:30
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This is TD05hr - 16g 6 10.5t

with normal inconel turbine wheel, and 10.5 housing.
single flapper design. ( evo 4-8 was double )

I have that titanium wheel / axel at home too..
cool

Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1109889
01/10/2010 14:43
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Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1109941
01/10/2010 16:56
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So 293 hp at the wheel?



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Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: Freddan72] #1109946
01/10/2010 17:09
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yes, thats about it.

there is a little play with the wastegate and power, so the top of the range is going to chance a little.. but only after the winter.. I have to take the turbo off.

maybe around 10- 15hp ..
and the torque is going to peak, not like this run, where the wastegate is a little open at beginning, so there is no peak.
so around 20nm for the peak .

Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1110062
02/10/2010 06:58
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the watercooling was used, and that was good only for 2hp, but ; the weather was not good for that test..

there were only around 7 degrees warm, so my Fmic could handle that no probably.
that gives you idea tough..
14 degrees weather 4hp
and +25 degrees 8hp maybe ?

Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1116104
15/10/2010 12:01
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Do you have a graph with power and torque at the wheels?
I would like to compare your result with mine. smile

Or is it okay to use the transmission losses and reduce the RR result with it?


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Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: Freddan72] #1116255
17/10/2010 17:53
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on the graph ( the link for the RR paper ) there is that wheel numbers..

blue is the colour..

Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1117278
19/10/2010 18:01
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I missed that one tongue


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Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: Freddan72] #1119572
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I know that this is my first post , but I need to ask are you using the stock internals ( stock pistons,head bolts,head gasket ) ?
and how many KM have you done on this setup ?

Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1120128
24/10/2010 20:37
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hello..

yes standard internals, stock bolts etc.. only better headgasket.

this was the first summer with this setup.
but, I have had 325hp alfa with standard headgasket also, and that was fine.. I owned that for 3 years.
its all about how to use the car.

Re: 16vt project 375-400hp [Re: ] #1127555
08/11/2010 19:57
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Nice work!

Can't believe this is all on standard engine internals. How long do you think your pistons and rods will last?

I suppose if you can keep everything cool and avoid detonation then you should be ok.

You could go for Lexan/ploycarbonate windows and save some weight there.

Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1127731
09/11/2010 09:17
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I saw that you will update with new rims, seats etc.
Is it racing seats?
Magnesium alloys?

Please tell me more what you are planning to do smile


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Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: Freddan72] #1127798
09/11/2010 12:28
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racing seats yes, very lightweight, I will add some photos, when I get them here.

alloys : planning to get oz alleggerita 17"
weight is only 6,3kg / wheel .
standard was 9,3 and the current what I have is also 9,3kg .

interior is still almost standard, and I´m keeping all the noise materials there and backseat for my boy, so he can come along too . cool
pics will follow later.. laugh

Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1127802
09/11/2010 12:31
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for alexblp :

hopefully they will last long .. laugh

I am not going to go everyday on the track, and my summer km are going to be around 2000 - 2500km .
and not 100% gas pedal down .. you know its all about how you use it. this is not a rally car. wink

Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1127807
09/11/2010 12:38
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Originally Posted By: jtm
I am not going to go everyday on the track, and my summer km are going to be around 2000 - 2500km .
and not 100% gas pedal down .. you know its all about how you use it. this is not a rally car. wink

marco tongue


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1127882
09/11/2010 14:53
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Originally Posted By: jtm
racing seats yes, very lightweight, I will add some photos, when I get them here.

alloys : planning to get oz alleggerita 17"
weight is only 6,3kg / wheel .
standard was 9,3 and the current what I have is also 9,3kg .

interior is still almost standard, and I´m keeping all the noise materials there and backseat for my boy, so he can come along too . cool
pics will follow later.. laugh


Wow! superlow weight! And I thought Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2 was low smile
Can you get OZ in 4x98?


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Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: Freddan72] #1127959
09/11/2010 17:27
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damn you begbie laugh

these are 4 x 100 oz send they own bolts for that ( was it wobble for english ? )

Re: jtm - 16vt project 375-400hp - discussion thre [Re: ] #1202995
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Hi jtm,

What have you done with Mitsu evo 9 turbo?


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