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Reccomended....Soundproofing #811036
09/04/2009 18:46
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A quick testamonial to the stuff ive just used to soundproof my car with...

I was looking to soundproof my car for ages but couldnt justify it based on the price so i asked a lad who builds kitcars at work what he uses/recommends.

The answer was bizarre but semi-logical and it came in the form of Builders Flashing Tape.

Being made and structured in an all too similar way to the off the shelf stuff and priced at 7 Quid for 1000x300mm i gave it a go.

I took all the carpet out of my boot and grabbed my crappy pair of paper scissors thinking i was about to be greeted by a tw@ of a job however i was mistaken.

I unrolled the roll, layed it out on the boot and cut it to size (using the affore mentioned crappy scissors) like it was paper. Cutting complex shapes around my fuel pump/loom was also dead easy.

Then i peeled the backing off and manouvered it into position, pressing it down with my hands adhered it nicely to the boot floor then i ran the back of a stanley knife in the "grooved" bits of the boot floor to which i was suprised to find it streched into and stayed in position beautifully.

I did the whole boot floor in less that 30 minutes and it looks O.E.

When i put the boot liner back down the tinnyness from the whole boot cavity was gone and it now has a nice dead thud when you put anything in there.

Putting it in the doors, or in the boot lid also gives you the same results, no tinny sounds and when you shut them it gives you that satisfying thud that the door of a vastily superior car does, though the stuff ways feck all.


In short, if youve googled the stuff and dismissed it as the work of a charlatan try it on the inside of your coop boot lid and if you dont think it sounds difference ill eat a whole assortments of hats.

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #811142
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If I said "this is old news" would you understand? laugh

Seriously Phil, you need to read this section more often, Bockers and I have been extolling the virtues of this stuff for years! laugh

Still, nice to know someone else is now a convert thumb


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Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: stan] #811197
09/04/2009 21:33
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Pffft, its ICE and Alarm section.

I really dont need ice in my car, tis cold enough and i already have an alarm hence my lack of attention laugh

But yes, i am converted lol.

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #811455
10/04/2009 09:54
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I know what you mean, I'm so old I still remember when a 16v car referred to the number of valves in the radio, not the engine! laugh


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Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: stan] #811517
10/04/2009 11:47
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pmsl..

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #811871
10/04/2009 23:38
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nice work mate

any links where to buy it form?

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #811953
11/04/2009 11:28
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B&Q roofing section £7 IIRC

Best mod, pound for pound ive done on my car so far. 20mins from taking the door card off to soundproofing it and putting it back on.

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #811975
11/04/2009 12:39
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thanks dude

you should do a "how-to" especially removing the door panels..

thos sounds too good compared to dynamat stuff.. i might pick some up today and do the boot lid, and checkthe 'thudness'

yes

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #812003
11/04/2009 13:47
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I would do a coop how-to but i sold mine a while ago, im just a loaner on this forum now cos its actually friendly unlike the other weird forums out there.

So whilst i couldnt swear itll make your boot sound like its made from metal rather than balsa wood im convinced it will cos its made my new car sound solider than a solid thing.

The stuff is called Hiflex (IIRC) Aquaseal Flashing Tape, you can expect to pay £7 for a roll.

Btw even if i could do a how-to there is really no need, once you get going you'll see that even a kid could do it, it really is that easy.

Also top tip, keep a can of WD40 handy for your scissors, they soon gum up.

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #812198
11/04/2009 21:18
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Went to B&Q today and bought some aquaseal flashing tape but paid a lot more for it than £7, 10m x 225mm was £16.99.
As usual i got carried away when fitting the new speakers and put 2 layers of flashing tape on and then mounted the speaker onto 12mm mdp spacing ring and mounted the mdf with 5mm anti rattle foam to the door. Anything rattles i will go mad.
If i get time i may even do the rear 1/4's tomorrow.
This stuff is so easy to fit and cuts with out effort with a blade.

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Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #812603
12/04/2009 18:13
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Right here we go the finished product.
Finished off soundproofing the front doors and boot today and must say the B&Q aqua flashing tape works a treat.
Double layer of flashing tape on front doors,12mm mdf spacing ring and 5mm anti rattle foam.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/shaunliepa/LGIM0005.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/shaunliepa/LGIM0006.jpg
Had to slightly mod the door card due to spacing ring and size of speaker but here it is.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/shaunliepa/LGIM0008.jpg
I had to fit the cross over to the door as too big to fit behind the end cap of the dash.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/shaunliepa/LGIM0010.jpg
Tweeter sits on top of original tweeter, too big to fit inside.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/shaunliepa/LGIM0007.jpg
To top it all off 6x9's in rear 1/4 panels, 12inch sub in boot with 2 amps and power cap.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/shaunliepa/DSCN1545.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/shaunliepa/DSCN1547.jpg

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #812609
12/04/2009 18:26
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cool Where do you get the MDF spacers?

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: bockers] #812631
12/04/2009 18:56
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Originally Posted By: bockers
cool Where do you get the MDF spacers?

These are easly made.
I made loads of them in the past for different cars & projects.

Obviously you need the MDF & a good jig saw, bit of measuring, sand/paper & away you go. Easy peasy laugh


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Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: jimboy] #812645
12/04/2009 19:15
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True, but I just can't be bothered, wondered if they could just be bought?

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: bockers] #812650
12/04/2009 19:20
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^^ Reminds me of ummm me laugh

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #812724
12/04/2009 21:31
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check out ebay for ready made mdf spacers

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/mdf%20spacer?_fro...ries&_naf=1

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Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #813372
14/04/2009 10:05
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Originally Posted By: Nazo
you should do a "how-to" especially removing the door panels..

http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=813367#Post813367

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #817309
20/04/2009 16:40
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I bought some of this stuff and it stunk to high heaven! Maybe I bought the wrong stuff..

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #817592
20/04/2009 22:34
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One question I can't get out of my head is how much weight this would add if you were to use it throughout the whole car as mentioned in previous posts. Especially if two layers were to be applied.

Can anyone who has done this give me an idea of what weight is in one roll, and how many rolls would be required to do boot floor, bootlid, rear quarters and front doors. I would also consider doing under the rear seat if this would be advantageous to overall sound quality.

I ask this question, because I have already upgraded my rears to 6x9's, have a 12" sub in boot, and plans for upgraded fronts and tweeters, however I do not want to compromise performance unnecessarily. crazy

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #818068
21/04/2009 16:37
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I've often thought of doing this and had I kept the old coupe I would have done.
Oh well roll on the next coupe so I can give it a go!!

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #818328
21/04/2009 23:00
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It's all weight though! I can't hear the ruddy stereo anyway above the deafening road din crazy



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Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #818468
22/04/2009 10:26
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Im doing the rear 1/4's this week end so will let you know the weight, this should give you a good idea as we have the same sort of set up.
Now my system has had time to run in and settle down ive been cranking up the volume and wow it sounds mental. I can sit on the motorway at 100mph with both windows fully open and sunroof slid all the way back and still hear every note and word in the music with no distortion.
And yes this stuff stinks for the first couple of weeks.

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #818751
22/04/2009 17:10
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Mine didnt smell of anything...

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #819073
23/04/2009 01:12
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Quote:
Im doing the rear 1/4's this week end so will let you know the weight, this should give you a good idea as we have the same sort of set up.


Nice one mate,will look forward to your hearing how much you use, and how it sounds. wink

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #820025
24/04/2009 14:45
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Sheep.. great work and pics

Has it really made that mugh of a difference?

Does anyone know who this compares to Dynamat soundproofing, which seem to be the preferred choice?

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #820342
24/04/2009 23:21
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it has made a hugh differance, come to brooklands next week and decide for yourself or next time we pass each other (seen you several times) have a listen.

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #820510
25/04/2009 10:54
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we can meet up in Reading sometime.. did I catch you on the A33, a few weeks ago?

Also I am getting a professional mobile ICE installer coming over to give me a quote.. so I can check the going rates, will mention the flashing tape to him..

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: ] #827172
06/05/2009 23:28
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Builders Flashing Tape...
What's the material, how does it work and where can you buy it? I only have "kind of Dynamat" in mine, ca 15mm thick selfadhesive carpets. They are too thick for most places i the doors so I'm very interested in this!

Having swapped over from my Punto '01 isn't easy, my Coupe is NOISY!

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: Per] #828894
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Can anybody reveal where they bought it..? UK secret maybe. smile

Re: Reccomended....Soundproofing [Re: Per] #829021
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you can get it from builders merchants or DIY shops

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