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Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days #832920
16/05/2009 08:20
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Ben (aka Watz on here), one of our quieter members, recently dropped his Coupe off for a little fettling. Driving down from Liverpool with the car stuffed to the brim with various bits and bobs, the standard coupe was in for a performance makeover wink

Anyway, the results are in from the local Dastek dyno...

1.4bar
396bhp & 331lbs/ft
343whp

1.3bar
381bhp & 318lbs/ft
331whp

1.2bar
355bhp & 299lbs/ft
306whp

The car has been mapped for 1bar, 1.1bar, 1.2bar, 1.3bar and 1.45bar on the five Blitz channels. Have to say it drives really nicely off boost and is nice and smooth coming on boost, a very fast car though!


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Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: Flea] #832925
16/05/2009 08:35
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Awesome results as always Leighton. cool

Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: ] #832943
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Excellent results leighton.

wheres the list of all the uprgardes hes done from standard??

Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: ] #832951
16/05/2009 09:26
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GT2871R 0.86
H&S downpipe
Bluflame 2.75" exhaust
Tubular manifold
Pro-Alloy FMIC
Pro-Alloy SIP
RamAir filter
Helix paddle clutch
Lightened flywheel
Walbro 255 fuel pump + battery feed
NGK 7 plugs
Blitz SBC boost controller
440cc injectors
Stage 4 remap



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Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: Flea] #832976
16/05/2009 10:04
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Glad to see the SBC doing it's job. wink

Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: Flea] #832992
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nice one cool but is it still on standard internals? shocked

Last edited by flyingcustard; 16/05/2009 10:47.
Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: ] #833075
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cool

Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: ] #833125
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Originally Posted By: flyingcustard
nice one cool but is it still on standard internals? shocked


yeah im pretty sure he is still on standard internals too. wink

Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: ] #833127
16/05/2009 14:53
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Thats scary on standard internals shocked

Good result though wink

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Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: Benny] #833163
16/05/2009 15:53
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hes as brave as me,but i had 1.5bar to the redline on a gt3071r

Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: ] #833183
16/05/2009 17:04
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Actually it's not so bad on the standard rods and pistons. The boost pressure is modest, 1.1-1.3bar being the daily drive and the torque is not too high at 300-320lbs/ft so within spec for the rods. Basically you have a very efficient setup that is only tickling the turbo!


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Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: Flea] #833202
16/05/2009 17:38
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Any graphs flea,

Ben

Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: Flea] #833225
16/05/2009 18:18
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Jari and his friend was over 400 HP and you are very close to that. And still on standard internals. Wow! smile

Graphs please!!!


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Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: Freddan72] #833253
16/05/2009 18:56
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Very impressive, must feel "starship" like cool


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Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: Freddan72] #833254
16/05/2009 18:57
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What sort of £ is it to achieve the 400 bhp ?

I take it the suspension and brakes are uprated to cope shocked

Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: ] #833262
16/05/2009 19:11
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I'm feeling all inadequate now frown wink Leighton - I assume the gains over mine are purely down to the bigger turbine housing and the better injectors?

However, I wonder if I could cope with the extra lag of the 0.86 turbine housing - I somehow doubt it.

Fellie - to do it properly and safely, I reckon you're looking at £6k - £7k, but that includes forged internals. This case would appear to suggest its not essential, which would drop the bill to around £3k, as follows:

GT2871 - £1100
FMIC - £450
Injectors - £250
Exhaust - £400
Boost control - £350
Intake mods (SIP, filter) - £150
mapping - £500
Cool plugs - £50

However, slapping all that onto a car with standard suspension and brakes is asking for trouble, so budget for another grand or so to help the thing stop and steer


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Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: Nigel] #833271
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Oof laugh.

Bit beyond what I have in mind lol wink.

I shall stick to my original plan of 'preserving + refurbing' the LE, then 'updating the suspension' to make it 100% to drive ( well, improved over standard, I'm not saying it's bad )

400bhp is a nice figure to throw about in the pub, and at ~ 10k including a decent 20vt purchase, it's certainly bargainous performance motoring laugh

<< goes in search of the next step on project LE 10 ( puts 350 - 400 bhp firmly to the back of his mind )

Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: ] #833330
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Imagine if Watz had forged pistons, rods, headwork and cams love

then he could run a weee bit more boost in the midrange laugh love

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Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: Benny] #833360
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soo leighton is he still all standard suspension then?

Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: ] #833418
17/05/2009 06:48
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Yes standard suspension and uprated brakes. Ben has a new set of wishbones waiting to go on and will be making a few changes over the coming months.


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Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: Flea] #833420
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Great results thumb

Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: ] #833427
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Originally Posted By: Nigel
I assume the gains over mine are purely down to the bigger turbine housing and the better injectors?


Pretty much the turbo, it's more efficient at the top end so will generally make more power for less boost all things equal.

The most impressive thing for me is the off-boost throttle response and pick up, it's noticeable how good it is pootling around. Ben had a new engine from Fiat a couple of years ago, anyway I did a compression test before the conversion and it showed 160-162psi across all five pots, a good strong engine.


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Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: Flea] #833985
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Think Watz is going to have more than a small grin when he puts his foot down and finds almost double the power laugh



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Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: pinin_prestatyn] #834004
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Great results Leighton!

As always thumb

Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: Flea] #834009
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Good results Flea.. as usual thumb

Congratulations to Watz smile , you have nice Coupe now. I think it should be reliable with this moderate boost and standard internals. Also, good thing is that you have a considerabely new engine (2 years old) which resulted in some nice power figures. Get us some pics and videos Watz wink

Can you post the the RR graph confused

The setup is not far from mine. Engine wise, I'm going to have the forged pistons and rods, C&B cams, some other bits and hopefully stage 5 from Flea smile


Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: ] #834301
18/05/2009 15:47
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Well, had it back 24 hours and i am still alive so things looking good laugh

Il try and post some pics and a video soon!

Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: watz] #834422
18/05/2009 19:20
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how does it feel to drive?


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Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: Nigel] #834484
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missing my coupe now when im seeing this new turbo setup.. frown

Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: ] #846960
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Here's a few pics of my new turbo and my rolling road print out aswell smile
(with thanks to leighton)

http://s661.photobucket.com/albums/uu333/kato00/

Re: Standard to 396bhp & 331lbs/ft in 10 days [Re: watz] #847055
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Looking good Watz. I remember meeting you at the last Dyno Demon rolling road day. Looking forward to seeing this car at the next one! Well done mate

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