in this months evo mag a main feature write up is the top 100 greatest drivers cars,but NO FIAT COUPE!!! should it belong in here http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/239818/this_months_evo_issue_135.html

No. It's not one of the greatest drivers cars but I'd say it was one of the top 100 most tempting and satisfying cars to own for reasonable money.

but yet the ford puma,pug 205gti,toyota mr2 mk1 are in

Bit peeved the 106 Rallye didn't come higher But then, there were some SERIOUS driver's cars that scored above it.

Pah, it beat the Mini...but then I have the JCW

Yeah, but who doesn't

What car Came Top Then ?..(Super 7!)

zonda came first

Most of the 1.3m Brits who own a Mini

Pagani Zonda F. Since I have no life, I'll type up the top ten.

1. Pagani Zonda F
2. Lotus 340R
3. Porsche GT3
4. Caterham Superlight R300
5. Renautsport megané R26.R
6. Lotus Elan
7. Renaultsport Clio Trophy
7. Ferrari F50 (Same score as Clio)
9. Mazda MX-5
10. Mitsi Evo VI Makinen edition



I really fancy a clio Trophy as my next car.

MMMmmm..!!!
..Very subjective though!, Depends who's doing the driving!
Sort of agree how some would be up there (Not that i have ever driven any )
..Doesn't surprise me the Caterham is there or the GT3 & we know about the Zonda from Top gear!..........A few surprises with the MX5 & Lotus Elan (was that the one with the Isuzu engine? or have i got it wrong?)

Some British (3) some Italian, French ,Jap & a German,,,,Obviously Nothing of American Origin !

I'm very tempted by the new Clio 200 with Cup chassis. Autocar rated it very highly last week in their group handling test - Not sure about the new front styling yet though.

no it was the original elan, a consumate handler!!..the fwd didnt feature if i recall correctly, which is strange as it is said to be one of THE benchmarks for fwd chasss...doesnt surprise me that the mk1 mr2 and puma were in, they are superb fun to drive and handle superbly..handling aint about power or grip, its about feel a,d fluidity and an ability to faithfully translate what nthe driver wants intowhat the car does...the coop , to me, seems to be more about grip than handling..it goes around corners very well, very quickly, its just not the most communicative car in the world..but then, it is about the most fun you can have for sensible money and has THOSE looks...

If it makes you guys feel any better look here .

And your point is what?
All of them WAY better drivers cars than a Coop.

+1 on the MR2 MK1 being in there, its definitely a drivers car. I miss my old MK1, brilliant fun for less money than a coop. Not quite as practical or fast but bloody awesome in a different way to the coop.

Heard good things about the Puma as well, was on my shortlist for consideration at the same time as the coop, though the coops power & looks sealed it for me!

-wolfman

F50 at No.7? I don't remember ever hearing anything spectacular about that car ever, except it didn't live up to the F40 in the slightest.

I think the F40 should be there instead of the F50.

i think generally you'd need to define what a drivers' car actually is - different drivers want different things, and if i had to do big mileage every week i certainly wouldn't want to do it in a pug 205 or a puma....

I think the F50's hype was its biggest problem - was marketed as an F1 car for the road and I think the press got annoyed when it obviously wasn't....was a stupid thing to say though really.

Its got much much better reviews later on in its life than when it first came out.

The Puma was a great car, I bought one in 98. The 1.7 Yamaha VVT engine was a proper cracker and handling was sublime, every time I went round a certain corner I would think "Hmmm I could have gone quicker".

On the subject of the engine I read that every engine was made in Wales then air-freighted to japan for Yamaha to tune and was then airfreighted to Germany to go onto the production line and be fitted to the car. As each engine was individually tuned, this was one of the reasons why the Racing Puma struggled in tests against the original 1.7 Puma. (Some Pumas put out more than the official 123BHP)

BUT, I don't think it has aged as well as the Coupe, Ford's "New edge" design quickly stalled with KA, Focus, Cougar and then went back to conservative designs.

F40 was widely regarded as better than F50 when F50 was released.

MR2 Mk1 was an excellent little mid-engined coupe, in all honesty it was like a new version of the Fiat X1/9. Mk2 wasn't as good though.

Saddest thing is that I haven't driven any of the top 10 cars!

nothing against thoose cars had mr2's for many years,its just that i was lead to believe the coupe was one of the best fwd cars made,im still a newbie so alot to learn yet

The Coop has unique styling, but mechanically there's nothing 'great'. Not massively fast, not particularly great handling (good, but not great). Coops are quite quick, nice looking, and cheap.





It's a list of the best drivers cars, not sales rep mobiles!

The Coop has unique styling, but mechanically there's nothing 'great'. Not massively fast, not particularly great handling (good, but not great). Coops are quite quick, nice looking, and cheap.





It's a list of the best drivers cars, not sales rep mobiles! [/quote]

it was an example, and i'm not a rep...

Mrs Mona has a Puma 1.7 & I can vouch that it is a great smiles per mile car. Kart-like handling & a very buzzy (no red line!) engine. My old Coupe would thrash it in a straight line, but on a twisty B road I'd fancy my chances in the Pumes. Good info on P2 about the engine too.

Once the engine & suspension of the Coupre has been modded a bit. I'd say it would sneak into the top 100!

Is a Mitubishi EVO REALLY a drivers car, considering most of the driving is done by computers???

id say yes..bottom line, computers and electrics can and do improve a cars handling, but the car must be capable of handling before the electricery kicks in...as the old adage suggests, you cant polish a turd...and no amount of electrical polishing will make a turd go round corners if its not designed to do so...

I didn't know about this article until I read this thread, i'll have to go out and buy evo tomorrow now.

I'm really dissapointed that the 340R was pipped to the post by the Zonda, I've owned one now for 4 years and love it to bits.

I've just nipped on to the 340R owners forum and according to them it was apparently only beaten by .13 of a point by the Pagani Zonda F - Shame.

Cool, the MX-5 is in the top 10. Will be useful ammo to fend off those hairdresser comments

What a load of POO! Who on here has driven a Zonda?????

Names below please! Awful these polls, most people will never get to drive most of these cars!

Still, sells magazines I suppose!

To add to the debate, as a drivers car, the Coupe rates far behind a lot of machinery I'm afraid, but who cares, it's gorgeous, quick enough, agile enough and rare. Who could ask for more, especially at the prices they are fetching now.

Long live the coop!

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Indeed.