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track car #935649
17/11/2009 00:09
17/11/2009 00:09

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Hi all, new and first post arranged a trip to the ring next year was going to take my old 600 bike but been offered a 20v turbo..

Are these engines really as easy to tune to the 300 bhp mark? with chip, turbo , intercooler??

Also and most importantly I intend removing all the seats, electric window motors, carpets, door cards any of the dash that I can to remove excess weight. Any idea on how low I can get the 1310kg kerb weight down too.

Many thanks

Jools

Re: track car [Re: ] #935879
17/11/2009 14:11
17/11/2009 14:11

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May be worth PMing Sparco on here - he races one on a regular basis.

Also quite a few of the guys track their coops so someone should be along shortly.

With regards to tuning, 300 bhp is achievable with the right kit and a healthy base engine - don't forget brakes and suspension!

Oh and welcome to the forum'

Re: track car [Re: ] #935966
17/11/2009 16:24
17/11/2009 16:24

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i went to the ring in july!!

the coupe was around 300bhpish and done well there!
surprised a few people!

300bhp is a good power output for the coupe providing you do all the relevant bits, clutch, brakes ect!!

Re: track car [Re: ] #935988
17/11/2009 17:00
17/11/2009 17:00
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You're on a nice little track, I would do the same if i had a spare 20VT.. A mate made glassfibre doors (MUCH lighter..) and hood for his Coupe. Lots of weight to be saved..
Engine will reach 300hp easily with a slightly bigger turbo, exaust and IC. Flea here does a nice mapping.

Same here, were there week 29 in july. Did Nordschleife (7laps) and GP-track (20min.), very fun indeed. smile

Re: track car [Re: Per] #935997
17/11/2009 17:21
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1310 is the "book" weight, which probably means a non-aricon car, with no oils, fluids or fuel - ie a 'dry' weight

When I race mine, I strip it quite severely - I reckon around 125 - 150kg comes out of it

However, while it was fully stripped, I weighed it at the local weighbridge - 1280kg (with 3/4 of a tank of fuel)

There's no way that a standard car is 1310kg - more like 1400-1450, or around 1500 with a driver


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Re: track car [Re: Nigel] #936000
17/11/2009 17:26
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Originally Posted By: Nigel
1310 is the "book" weight, which probably means a non-aricon car, with no oils, fluids or fuel - ie a 'dry' weight

When I race mine, I strip it quite severely - I reckon around 125 - 150kg comes out of it

However, while it was fully stripped, I weighed it at the local weighbridge - 1280kg (with 3/4 of a tank of fuel)

There's no way that a standard car is 1310kg - more like 1400-1450, or around 1500 with a driver


so you going on a diet for the next totb nigel??
laugh

Re: track car [Re: ] #936375
18/11/2009 09:54
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Originally Posted By: Marco20valveT
so you going on a diet for the next totb nigel??
laugh


It occurred to me that it would probably be a good way to go faster, but I'm already a svelte 12st anyway, so perhaps not

actually, despite my maturing years, I still like my crisps and chocolate, AND I can't be bothered with keeping fit, so there's little chance of losing any weight, ever.

Its far easier to make up for it by adding a bit of octane booster and turning up the boost rolleyes


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Re: track car [Re: Nigel] #936405
18/11/2009 10:33
18/11/2009 10:33

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Originally Posted By: Nigel
Its far easier to make up for it by adding a bit of octane booster and turning up the boost rolleyes


Spoken like a true petrolhead. laugh

Re: track car [Re: ] #936413
18/11/2009 10:43
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Nicely reasoned Nigel!


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Re: track car [Re: Sedicivalvole] #936787
18/11/2009 17:33
18/11/2009 17:33

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Just dump everything that you dont need in the car out of it,even the heater box goes,as that alone weighs over 12 kilos.


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