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Re: What exactly is TOTB? [Re: ] #938382
20/11/2009 21:33
20/11/2009 21:33
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I'd be happy to try to help you get a TOTB qualifying time, but in all honesty, I don't think the car will do it with only 300bhp. It MIGHT just get close, but you'll have to strip it bare - it will take a week to put it back together again (I know this though bitter experience - TOTB always costs me a couple of day's holiday to get the car rebuilt)

I've never seen a 300bhp car break the 13s - the closest were:

My 13.3 with 305bhp
Dan's 13.05 with about 330bhp

I think you're going to need 350bhp to stand a chance of getting below 13.0 and even then, the power doesn't guarantee it. Previous years have seen several people that *should* have been able to qualify fail after several attempts

I'm not convinced I could teach you much - its all about 'feel' for what's happening under the bonnet and under the tyres.

We're not trying to put you off - we really need more people to get interested in TOTB - Flea and I can't be expected to do it forever! However, there's no point in starting with unrealistic expectations, otherwise you'll get very disappointed very quickly.

So - if you're serious, I think you need to increase your power target, AND you need to invest in some decent rubber, AND you're going to have to strip the car bare. To get to the required power, you're going to be right on the verge of going forged, but you *might* just get away with it.

Right - one final attempt to put you off - if you're still keen, then go for it.

I reckon to get a car that's capable of qualifying for TOTB, you're looking at three grand ....

Turbo - £1000
Injectors, FPR and remap session - £600
pair of race seats - £300
Set of trackday tyres - £500
Trip to Santa Pod to qualify - £50
Entry to TOTB - £100

And that's before you find other stuff that you might need - air filter, boost control, intercooler, bigger exhaust, brakes (don't skimp on brakes - the top speed run can get quite scary shocked )

If you're willing to spend that kind of money for a few minutes of tracktime, then you'll get plenty of help from those that have done it before - just don't go into it expecting great results from under-investment.


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Re: What exactly is TOTB? [Re: Nigel] #938392
20/11/2009 21:49
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marco as a mate your a long way off totb its for serious tuners or v v fast privateers, also the bar is being raised every year with the cars competing and the qualifying times are going lower also. you will need a lot of wedge but knowing you, you will somehow manage it on the cheap.

Re: What exactly is TOTB? [Re: ] #938398
20/11/2009 21:54
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Originally Posted By: eldinho
Definately, weekend of Feb 20th probably next time I'm looking at going.

why don't we arrange for a few of the coupe boys to go on the above date, i could bring at least 4 other coupe owners.

Re: What exactly is TOTB? [Re: ] #938403
20/11/2009 22:01
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Originally Posted By: BoostMeCoupeUp
Originally Posted By: eldinho
Definately, weekend of Feb 20th probably next time I'm looking at going.

why don't we arrange for a few of the coupe boys to go on the above date, i could bring at least 4 other coupe owners.


i'd deffo come along to watch/support if i'm free that weekend cool

Re: What exactly is TOTB? [Re: ] #938409
20/11/2009 22:07
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This should be arranged it would be a great day!
I have been to loads of rwyb's at santapod as only live an hour away and there is hardly ever any coupes there apart from WestCoupe now and again.

Re: What exactly is TOTB? [Re: ] #938413
20/11/2009 22:11
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convoy!!!

Re: What exactly is TOTB? [Re: ] #938462
20/11/2009 23:18
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Il come in my car, be nice to see if i can even break the 14's!, Get a thread going in the RWYB section,

Its not my thread,

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Re: What exactly is TOTB? [Re: Nigel] #938579
21/11/2009 09:46
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Originally Posted By: Nigel
Flea and I can't be expected to do it forever!


I'm definately doing it this year, I've already got the time. I'm sure westcoupe will be as well.

Re: What exactly is TOTB? [Re: ] #938758
21/11/2009 17:02
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Originally Posted By: eldinho
I'm definately doing it this year, I've already got the time.


Brilliant laugh - I assume Westan will have another go, and I'm pretty sure we won't be able to keep Leighton away, so we should have at least four cars. Our best was five, but three of them broke on the day frown

Its a shame we won't challenge for any of the straight line disciplines, but the top speed run is just too short, and Specky's Tigra is unstoppable (500+ bhp and weighs less than a tonne)


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