i am wanting lower my coupe but not too much also i dont want it to become a much harder ride what would be the best springs to buy

Eibachs

do i need to change the shocks as well

Not really! But get the tracking done after you lower it!

unless you want a hard ride don't change the shocks as well

I have Cobra 40mm progressive springs on mine. Very good for the money £170 plus postage from europerfomanceparts. Very much the same as eibach and H&R

im using pi springs on mine and is a very nice ride no hard crashing glides over pot holes

are you on standard shocks

My Eibachs are fantastic, I'd recommend them to anyone, ride is actually better on the standard shocks, and the handling improvement is just gigantic!

Just what I'm going for thank's to Flea..I hope I wont be dissappointed..

how much do the Eibachs lower the car by and how much are they?

30mm lower.

Take a look at Alternative Autos website for a price

on standard shocks

The Eibachs cost me about £220 but I fitted them myself.

are they really worth the extra £100 over the price of pi springs, apex spring etc????

Buy the cheap PI or Apex springs and fit them, then in 2 months when you hate the quality of the ride buy the Eibachs.

Or buy the Eibachs first and never look back, in reality that's saving you £100 and 2 months of misery !

PI are so good they offer this money back guarantee:



So if your not 100% satisfied with how they look in the box then you can return them, fit them and they wont take them back.

Now is that the guarantee a good quality spring company offers ?

I would recommend Cobra springs. They are a well know german maker and are also progressive wound that are on par with H&R. I have there 40mm springs on my coupe with KYB ultra sr shocks.

I put up with Apex springs for one week until I changed back to standard springs. They were that bad.
And that was with Bilstein dampers..

They also made the top mount bearings creak because the angle of the top coil was not the same as the original springs.

The car was also lower at the front than standard but the same height at the back.

Utter skip material.

i bought those springs and fitted them they are great thanks in fact ive been pot hole gliding to test them out and you would never know you were in a coupe feels like im driving proffessor pat pendings whacky racer or the two cave men with clubs cant remember there names but it drives as well as theres... mint

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i like my pi springs i thought the eibachs were more harsh but thats just me

I bought apex lowerin springs dont know weather to put them on now

put them on and let me know what its like

yes got them now so will tell you rmj what there like when i get them put on, will be with standard shocks as well.

thanks mate, before and after pics would be good too, id be interested to see the difference in ride height.

Doesn't do too much to the front, it's mainly the back what's lowered.. I will have some cobras up for sale soon.

can you get any lowring spirngs for the rear that go down further then 30mm other then coilovers?

looks like its eibachs then anyone know who does them cheapest..... sebo are you really on pi springs i thought you were winding me up at first now im not so sure

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Yes.

I have Novitecs fitted all around on mine and they lower the car 40mm

And I believe H&R springs also lower by 40mm ?

I have the Bisltein/Novitec (same as Eibach?) combo and find the ride too harsh for my liking.

Are we saying the Eibach springs with standard shocks provides the lowered look but more comfortable ride?

Thanks.

Strange, under the Distance Selling Regulations, I believe you would be entitled to fit the springs and then if you didn't like them to remove and return for a full refund including postage.

http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/general/oft698.pdf

I thought the distance selling laws stated to get a refund the goods must be unused

Yup, they need to be unused as new for a return.

Zak, Novitec had their springs made by Eibach but if I remember correctly, they lowered the coupe a little more than the usual Eibach spring so that could explain why yours feel a little harsh ?

Jim, that would explain why is was expecting re;ative comfort!

How would the car handle with Standard shocks and Eibach springs? I'm not looking for go-cart road-holding anymore and want a degree of comfort with the lowered look.

Thanks.

It was ok Zak, I found it could ocasionally get a little bouncy but that was with dampers that were 55K miles old, new standard dampers and Eibachs might work really well together.
Just remember the Eibachs are uprated about 30% on a standard spring so they are always going to be a little harsher.

New standard shocks with eibach springs is the best combo for comfort and handling.

Its still not amazingly comfortable, but isthe best choice.

Yes I have OE Shocks with Eibachs - Yes its a harder ride but not too crashy. You will feel the stiffness though (matron!) But defo worth it for the looks......

Nope, you can use them to ensure they work OK, read this:

http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/general/oft698.pdf

read section 3.58.

Basically you are entitled to open packaging and "try out the goods" but you must take "reasonable care of them".

Section 3.65 also confirms this

I had Pi's on my first 16vt and they were great I thought. Comfortable and affordable with a nice stance.

Each to their own I suppose.

just bought a set of eibachs will it make a big difference if i buy new shocks ? as my coupe has only done 54k

I would wait until one needs replacing then get Bilsteins.....

Looks like original new shocks and Eibach springs will be my next combo to try!

Thanks guys.

Is this the right kit and is the price good?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EIBACH-Pro-Kit-LOW...=item45f0a3c64d

Cheers folks.

ive just brought some Pi springs for a knats chuff over £100 inc vat and delivery

for that money i dont care if they ride suffers a bit

when you fit them let me know what they are like please just out of interest

Went Eibach myself. Rog fitting tomorrow with a brace. Am risking the old standard shocks as they don't feel too bad and I'm wondering if a previous owner already replaced them. Will report.

I had Pi springs with standard shocks and thought they were decent enough, unless you live near bad roads then i would avoid ie.. potholes and the like.

I now have KYB ultra sr's with cobra 40mm srings which are a vast improvment on PI spring, and the handling is superb have beaten both a type r and a wrx round the twistys on this set up however on KYB ultra's the back is quite hard.

They are almost as good as the Koni coilovers I had on my Mk4 Golf GTi

So I would reccomend them

From Alternative Autos'........

EIBACH SPRING KITS (3CM LOWER) ALL MODELS £188.95

ALL PRICES + 17.5 % VAT ALTERNATIVE AUTOS
FIAT COUPE DISCOUNTED PARTS 2010(JAN)

So £200 about right...

£230 delivered inc.

Ok. Old set-up was 11 year old original shocks and springs and no strut brace.

New set-up is brand new OEM shocks, Eibach springs and an OMP brace.

First impressions:
The ride comfort is largely the same - possibly because my old suspension was knackered. Ordinary surfaces feel the same but it is harder (and more painful) if you fail to spot one of these new bloody potholes that have sprung up everywhere. Generally perfectly accceptable however.

The handling seems much better. The car corners flat with no bouncing, rolling, juddering or flexing as before. You have more confidence as you can feel what the tyres are doing more directly - the feedback gets through to the wheel whereas before it was distorted by other wayward things occurring. I need a dry road but already I can tell it is a great improvement.

Neil, good to read your feedback.



That's the same experience I have with my Bistein shocks, Eibach front springs and Novitec rear springs.

I'm on the verge of changing cars now for something more comfortable.

I could go with stock springs and shocks but I know I won't be happy with the looks.

If only there was a 'best of both worlds' solution, but that's now how suspension works.

I'll have your wheels then

I was hoping someone would come along and give me some justification to keep the car

After driving it today I decided it aint all that bad if you dodge the pot holes

Sorry. How about: "You'd be crazy to sell your lovely coupe but at least you'd get a good price for the wheels."

Standard shocks with the Eibachs is pretty good - probably more comfortable than you have now. Talking of wheels, the lower profile tyres won't be helping matters...

Just fitted some Fiat Recaros from Joe and the difference they make to the ride is astonishing. Seriously zak, don't sell the car or change the setup, get some recaro seats. Makes it feel like a modern car.

Hi,

Useful thread this!

Im posting on behalf of a friend who needs to replace the springs on his coupe. All the kits mentioned above lower the car by 30-40mm, but we were wondering if its possible to take the car any lower.

Thanks in advance

You would need coilovers to go lower.

You would need to modify the front wheelarches to go much lower than 40m I reckon. There isn't much of a gap between the liner and the tyre.

Well spotted about arches i remember now when i dropped mine low , it was rubbing on the inside on the full turn and over the speed bumps ,but that was on 18' alloys , so i would imagine on 16' , 17' you can go a little bit lower...

I'll try standard shocks next. I thought the same about the wheels, but to be honest I couldn't tell much of a difference in ride quality when I put the standard 16s on while getting the 18s refurbished.



I already have the Recaros (air-bag type) as it's a Plus.

Im thinking of getting the Apex ones for now, i know its the cheaper and lesser reccomended option but i need the car back on the road asap.

Will there be any additional work involved in lowering it by 35mm on the back?

Nope - Eibachs drop 30-35mm all round - no issues with cleareance etc.

How far could it be taken? Potentially, jsut out of interest

Probably 40 to 50mm max although you'd have no travel at that height and the handling would be ruined.

I wouldn't go with the Apex ones either. The car will handle and ride worse, you will get creaking from the top mounts due to the shape of the top coil, and the back will be higher than the front.

I just fitted Apex springs with new dampers on my 16VT and they're great (just like Frosties) no creaking or anything. These 16VT springs aren't progressive wound like the 20VT ones seem to be so they don't have the "useless" coil-bound bit. I wonder if 16VT springs would work properly on a 20VT?