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Re: lowering springs
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06/02/2010 01:53
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can you get any lowring spirngs for the rear that go down further then 30mm other then coilovers? Yes. I have Novitecs fitted all around on mine and they lower the car 40mm
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Re: lowering springs
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06/02/2010 16:35
06/02/2010 16:35
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zak
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unless you want a hard ride don't change the shocks as well I have the Bisltein/Novitec (same as Eibach?) combo and find the ride too harsh for my liking. Are we saying the Eibach springs with standard shocks provides the lowered look but more comfortable ride? Thanks.
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Re: lowering springs
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06/02/2010 17:56
06/02/2010 17:56
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Buy the cheap PI or Apex springs and fit them, then in 2 months when you hate the quality of the ride buy the Eibachs. Or buy the Eibachs first and never look back, in reality that's saving you £100 and 2 months of misery ! PI are so good they offer this money back guarantee: Your moneyback guarantee If you are not 100% satisfied and want to return the kit within 30 days of order in unused condition we will refund in full.
So if your not 100% satisfied with how they look in the box then you can return them, fit them and they wont take them back. Now is that the guarantee a good quality spring company offers ? Strange, under the Distance Selling Regulations, I believe you would be entitled to fit the springs and then if you didn't like them to remove and return for a full refund including postage. http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/general/oft698.pdf
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Re: lowering springs
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#980411
07/02/2010 23:02
07/02/2010 23:02
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zak
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Jim, that would explain why is was expecting re;ative comfort!
How would the car handle with Standard shocks and Eibach springs? I'm not looking for go-cart road-holding anymore and want a degree of comfort with the lowered look.
Thanks.
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Re: lowering springs
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10/02/2010 17:48
10/02/2010 17:48
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Nello
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Yes I have OE Shocks with Eibachs - Yes its a harder ride but not too crashy. You will feel the stiffness though (matron!) But defo worth it for the looks......
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Re: lowering springs
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11/02/2010 00:36
11/02/2010 00:36
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DidCoop
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i like my pi springs i thought the eibachs were more harsh but thats just me I had Pi's on my first 16vt and they were great I thought. Comfortable and affordable with a nice stance. Each to their own I suppose.
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Re: lowering springs
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11/02/2010 02:18
11/02/2010 02:18
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ktm450exc
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just bought a set of eibachs will it make a big difference if i buy new shocks ? as my coupe has only done 54k
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Re: lowering springs
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11/02/2010 10:41
11/02/2010 10:41
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Nello
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I would wait until one needs replacing then get Bilsteins.....
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Re: lowering springs
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11/02/2010 23:41
11/02/2010 23:41
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It was ok Zak, I found it could ocasionally get a little bouncy but that was with dampers that were 55K miles old, new standard dampers and Eibachs might work really well together. Just remember the Eibachs are uprated about 30% on a standard spring so they are always going to be a little harsher. New standard shocks with eibach springs is the best combo for comfort and handling.
Its still not amazingly comfortable, but isthe best choice.
Yes I have OE Shocks with Eibachs - Yes its a harder ride but not too crashy. You will feel the stiffness though (matron!) But defo worth it for the looks...... Looks like original new shocks and Eibach springs will be my next combo to try! Thanks guys.
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Re: lowering springs
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17/02/2010 11:17
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Re: lowering springs
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19/02/2010 18:47
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ive just brought some Pi springs for a knats chuff over £100 inc vat and delivery
for that money i dont care if they ride suffers a bit
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Re: lowering springs
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19/02/2010 20:30
19/02/2010 20:30
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when you fit them let me know what they are like please just out of interest ive just brought some Pi springs for a knats chuff over £100 inc vat and delivery
for that money i dont care if they ride suffers a bit
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Re: lowering springs
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19/02/2010 23:36
19/02/2010 23:36
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Went Eibach myself. Rog fitting tomorrow with a brace. Am risking the old standard shocks as they don't feel too bad and I'm wondering if a previous owner already replaced them. Will report.
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Re: lowering springs
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#987220
20/02/2010 01:20
20/02/2010 01:20
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I had Pi springs with standard shocks and thought they were decent enough, unless you live near bad roads then i would avoid ie.. potholes and the like.
I now have KYB ultra sr's with cobra 40mm srings which are a vast improvment on PI spring, and the handling is superb have beaten both a type r and a wrx round the twistys on this set up however on KYB ultra's the back is quite hard.
They are almost as good as the Koni coilovers I had on my Mk4 Golf GTi
So I would reccomend them
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Re: lowering springs
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#987299
20/02/2010 11:14
20/02/2010 11:14
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Nello
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From Alternative Autos'........
EIBACH SPRING KITS (3CM LOWER) ALL MODELS £188.95
ALL PRICES + 17.5 % VAT ALTERNATIVE AUTOS FIAT COUPE DISCOUNTED PARTS 2010(JAN)
So £200 about right...
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Re: lowering springs
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20/02/2010 12:03
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Re: lowering springs
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25/02/2010 16:10
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neil20vt
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Ok. Old set-up was 11 year old original shocks and springs and no strut brace.
New set-up is brand new OEM shocks, Eibach springs and an OMP brace.
First impressions: The ride comfort is largely the same - possibly because my old suspension was knackered. Ordinary surfaces feel the same but it is harder (and more painful) if you fail to spot one of these new bloody potholes that have sprung up everywhere. Generally perfectly accceptable however.
The handling seems much better. The car corners flat with no bouncing, rolling, juddering or flexing as before. You have more confidence as you can feel what the tyres are doing more directly - the feedback gets through to the wheel whereas before it was distorted by other wayward things occurring. I need a dry road but already I can tell it is a great improvement.
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Re: lowering springs
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#998138
10/03/2010 12:35
10/03/2010 12:35
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zak
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Neil, good to read your feedback. Ordinary surfaces feel the same but it is harder (and more painful) if you fail to spot one of these new bloody potholes that have sprung up everywhere That's the same experience I have with my Bistein shocks, Eibach front springs and Novitec rear springs. I'm on the verge of changing cars now for something more comfortable. I could go with stock springs and shocks but I know I won't be happy with the looks. If only there was a 'best of both worlds' solution, but that's now how suspension works.
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Re: lowering springs
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11/03/2010 16:21
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neil20vt
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I'll have your wheels then
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Re: lowering springs
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11/03/2010 22:42
11/03/2010 22:42
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zak
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I'll have your wheels then I was hoping someone would come along and give me some justification to keep the car After driving it today I decided it aint all that bad if you dodge the pot holes
Last edited by zak; 11/03/2010 22:43.
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Re: lowering springs
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#999423
12/03/2010 09:27
12/03/2010 09:27
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neil20vt
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Sorry. How about: "You'd be crazy to sell your lovely coupe but at least you'd get a good price for the wheels."
Standard shocks with the Eibachs is pretty good - probably more comfortable than you have now. Talking of wheels, the lower profile tyres won't be helping matters...
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Re: lowering springs
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13/03/2010 17:32
13/03/2010 17:32
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neil20vt
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Just fitted some Fiat Recaros from Joe and the difference they make to the ride is astonishing. Seriously zak, don't sell the car or change the setup, get some recaro seats. Makes it feel like a modern car.
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Re: lowering springs
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#1001967
16/03/2010 19:59
16/03/2010 19:59
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Hi,
Useful thread this!
Im posting on behalf of a friend who needs to replace the springs on his coupe. All the kits mentioned above lower the car by 30-40mm, but we were wondering if its possible to take the car any lower.
Thanks in advance
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Re: lowering springs
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#1002063
16/03/2010 21:51
16/03/2010 21:51
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anthrax
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You would need coilovers to go lower.
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