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Toe Settings #987553
20/02/2010 21:08
20/02/2010 21:08
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What toe settings do people run?

I suspect its mostly the 2mm toe in as standard. Correct me if im wrong on that!

I'm after a setup mostly for road use, ie daily driver, but only 10 miles or so a day, but also for occasional track use. I am quite happy to compromise towards a track type set up.

I've 1 deg of camber on the front, and the eibach/bilstein combo with top and lower strut braces front, and rear arb waiting to go on.

My thoughts are to go with the standard 2mm toe in, however i'm getting pretty bad understeer at the moment, I guess this is mostly down to the bad roads though. However a bit of googling, and toe out may be what i need to cut down the understeer.

What are your thoughts?

Cheers
Phil

Last edited by phil_20VT; 20/02/2010 21:09.

Re: Toe Settings [Re: phil_20VT] #987558
20/02/2010 21:14
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I think you should stick to the standard toe settings. If you want to sharpen up the handling, dial in some negative camber (provided you have something adjustable like camber bolts)...at the expense of inner tyre wear though..

Re: Toe Settings [Re: Kelv27] #987744
21/02/2010 11:36
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The standard toe setting is 2mm with a tolerance of +/- 1mm, so you could easily go to 1mm toe in and still be at standard settings

With standard settings, you'll have a car that's well 'planted' at high speed, with little or no wandering. As soon as you venture into parallel or toe-out, you'll get a sharper turn-in response, but at the expense of stability. You'll notice that the car always needs steering input to make it go where you want, because if you let go of the steering wheel, it will gradually fall off the road.

Personally, I use -1.25 degrees of camber and 1mm toe-in for most of the year, and parallel for a track day or TOTB

if you really want to sharpen up the steering response without having to play with tracking, add a (little) bit more camber and/or fit an uprated rear ARB


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Re: Toe Settings [Re: Nigel] #987971
21/02/2010 19:20
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I use the same figures as Nigel, -1.25(-ish)deg camber and 1mm toe-in. Good compromise for turn-in/stability me thinks. smile

Re: Toe Settings [Re: Per] #988608
22/02/2010 19:18
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Thanks, i think ive got my answer.



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